[Wikipedia-l] Helga banned

[Steve Callaway]

I can only concur. It is a pity that we did not grasp this particular nettle
sooner.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Krzysztof P. Jasiutowicz" <kpj at kki.net.pl>
To: <wikipedia-l at nupedia.com>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Helga banned


> On 09-09-2002, Jimmy Wales wrote thusly :
> > After much deliberation, and after due consideration for all of the
> > arguments and discussions here, and taking into account what appears
> > to me to be a general consensus, I have chosen to ban Helga for a
> > period of 3 months.
> > After that time, she can reapply to me personally for re-instatement.
> > I know that not everyone will be happy with this decision, although
> > the vast majority will be.  Such is the nature of consensus.  I can't
> > wait for unanimity, or we will wait forever.
> > I am fully aware of the dangers of precedent, which is why I have
> > waited so long to take action in this case.  Banning should always be
> > a "last resort".  After more than a year of trying to work with Helga,
> > and after losing more than one highly valued contributor because of
> > her, we are now at a last resort stage.
> > To my mind, the difficulty with Helga is not her idiosyncratic views
> > on history, but her inability or refusal to work co-operatively to
> > resolve differences.  Even here, on the mailing list, where I invited
> > her to discuss these issues, she prefers to ignore discussions about
> > her posting style in order to re-iterate accusations of censorship and
> > to repeat her strange historical claims.
> > In order to contribute to a restoration of the peace, I will be mostly
> > avoiding further public comment, although everyone who likes is more
> > than invited to write to me privately to support or decry this
> > decision.
> > Helga, in particular, is welcome to write to me to discuss this, but
> > there is really no appeal possible at this point.  The ban is not
> > permanent, and with good behavior, she can come back and try again in
> > 3 months time.
>
> Decision hard to take and uneasy one but the right one IMO.
>
> Is she also banned from the German Wikipedia ?
>
> Regards,
> kpjas.
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