[Wikipedia-l] More female Wikipedians

Tue Jan 15 22:56:44 UTC 2002

Ummmm not unless we add a list for Wikipedia/men...but
then we might get more lists of classifications than
we need!  Besides, It's kind of fun watching people
figure out that I'm a person of the gyno-persuasion!

JHK
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>    1. Re:  Re: Incorrect HTML encoding--something
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>    2. More female Wikipedians (sgilbert at nbnet.nb.ca)
>    3. Press release tomorrow: Wikipedia Day! (Larry
> Sanger)
>    4. Re: More female Wikipedians (Simon Kissane)
>    5. Re: Re: wiki source cvs (David Merrill)
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> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:35:17 -0800
> From: lcrocker at nupedia.com
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> Subject: Re:  [Wikipedia-l] Re: Incorrect HTML
> encoding--something new?
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> The way theyare now (HTML4 Trans., ISO-8859-1) is
> great. In the 
> future we can tweak the sotware if we need to
> generate something 
> else, since the data is unambiguous.
> 
> >I have no _particular_ opinions.  All I want is for
> our pages to work
> >in all browsers.  What should I do?
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> From: sgilbert at nbnet.nb.ca
> To: wikipedia-l at nupedia.com
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:13:20 -0400
> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] More female Wikipedians
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> > > > PS- Are there no other women taking part in
> this? I feel a bit like I've
> > > > snuck into the boys room. ;)
> > >
> > > :-) Ruth Ifcher is around (RoseParks on
> wikipedia) and Janet Davis
> > > writes a lot on the Wikipedia.  I'm not sure if
> they are on the
> > > mailing list, though.  Oh, and there's also
> PinkUnicorn.
> > 
> > Let's not forget JHK, --April, and Dreamyshade, to
> name three of the more
> > hard-working females.  There are quite a few
> others, too.  Wikipedia is
> > definitely male-dominated, though, which I agree
> is regrettable.
> > 
> > Larry
> 
> There's also Claudine Chionh, H. Jonat and BF, since
> we're 
> counting. :)
> 
> - Stephen Gilbert
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:34:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Larry Sanger <lsanger at nupedia.com>
> To: <wikipedia-l at nupedia.com>
> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Press release tomorrow:
> Wikipedia Day!
> Reply-To: wikipedia-l at nupedia.com
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> If all goes according to plan, the press release
> should come out tomorrow,
> which is "Wikipedia Day" (our first anniversary). 
> This might or might not
> bring in lots of traffic.  Be ready, Militia
> members!  Get into a
> welcoming mood, Welcoming Committee members!  :-)
> 
> Larry
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:29:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: Simon Kissane <sj_kissane at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] More female Wikipedians
> To: wikipedia-l at nupedia.com
> Reply-To: wikipedia-l at nupedia.com
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> --- sgilbert at nbnet.nb.ca wrote:
> [snip]
> > There's also Claudine Chionh, H. Jonat and BF,
> since
> > we're counting. :)
> Maybe it's time for [[Wikipedians/Female]]? :)
> 
> > - Stephen Gilbert
> Simon J Kissane
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:58:26 -0500
> From: David Merrill <david at lupercalia.net>
> To: wikipedia-l at nupedia.com
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Re: wiki source cvs
> Reply-To: wikipedia-l at nupedia.com
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 04:50:53PM +0100, Robert
> Bihlmeyer wrote:
> > Larry Sanger <lsanger at nupedia.com> writes:
> > 
> > > This, by the way, would be a great feature for
> Wikipedia to be able to
> > > use; we'd certainly like Wikipedia articles to
> be convertable to DocBook
> > > XML format.  That's what we decided we wanted to
> use as an XML DTD for
> > > Nupedia, and surely we'd want to use it for
> Wikipedia too.
> > 
> > I'm not convinced that DocBook is the best DTD for
> this kind of
> > content. I like it very much for
> (computer-oriented) technical
> > documentation, but for a more general topic? When
> used to its full
> > extent DB is also quite baroque, and most of it
> probably wouldn't be
> > used (for example the GUISUBMENU element <g>).
> Take a look at
> >
> <URL:http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/part2.html>
> to get an overview
> > of DocBook elements.
> > 
> > A simpler, encylopedia-specific DTD may be better.
> On the other hand,
> > I don't know of any off-the-shelf DTD that fits
> this description, and
> > a DocBook-subset may be better supported by other
> software than any
> > DTD that's just used by Nupedia (and maybe
> Wikipedia).
> 
> I agree that any complete-ish implementation of
> DocBook would be very
> hard and frought with difficulty. However, being
> about to export into
> basic docbook (meaning not much more than links,
> sections, and <para>
> tags) would allow the content to be worked into
> DocBook based
> publication systems and such, and also the
> generation of pdf,
> postscript, and other outputs. And *that* much at
> least would be
> fairly easy and worth doing imho.
> 
> -- 
> David C. Merrill                        
> http://www.lupercalia.net
> 
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