[Wikipedia-l] Very interesting article

[Larry Sanger]

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/18/technology/18SELF.html

Notice, this is from almost one year ago, and was written just three days
after Wikipedia began.

Two websites, however, are mentioned that I would think would be of
interest to Wikipedians: http://www.thevines.com/ and
http://www.themestream.com/ I'd heard of these before but never knew very
much about them.  Now, thevines.com seems to be password only, and
themestream.com seems to be down.  Anyone know what's up with them?

Larry