[Wikipedia-l] My goodness, people!!! Aka WTF? (was Wikipedia and anti-Semitism)
Julie Hofmann Kemp
juleskemp at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 10 20:37:49 UTC 2002
1) Yes, Erik is Eloquence, and has been involved in many edit wars on
subjects which he has little expertise.
2) More importantly, what IS the problem? Clutch, we don't know each
other, but you cannot NOT mention Wagner's anti-Semitism. It may have
had little to do with his music, but Wagner very influential in the rise
of German nationalist thought (of the more conservative to extreme
type). Whether or not Wagner himself had anything to do with it, one
cannot discuss him without at least mentioning the affinity Hitler had
for his music -- the Ring cycle especially, as an ur-German saga...
3 )An historian might deal with this by saying something like, "Wagner
is seen by many to have been anti-Semitic, or at least to have supported
the idea of anti-Semitism This belief is generally based on one of
Wagner's own works [insert name here], in which he describes the Jews
as..." In this was, no one is labeling or falsely accusing anybody of
anything -- just offering a generally held conclusion and the basis
therefore. Speaking of which, I hope there is something similar in the
article about that nice Mr. Luther...
Jules
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