[Wikipedia-l] Re: [WikiFR-l] Alerte de vandalisme

Anthere anthere5 at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 3 20:03:35 UTC 2002 

--- athymik <athymik at ifrance.com> wrote:
> Des nouvelles :
> 
> * Une autre vague a été repousée...
> * LAG total ! On peut même plus voir ce qu'il fait !
> 
> Une idée ?
> Merci ;-)
> 
> Tim

Je suis de retour depuis 15 mn

Aucune connection a aucun site

Good news

We are safe, horray !!!

Bad news : maybe the lag is happening because the
assault moved to another place


Do not restart the server !!  When down, we are safe
!!!

Athymyk, seriously, could you tomorrow work on a
"REPAIRBOT"

I agree with it by default !!!!

below some thoughts

A vandal bot not taking all the advantages it could is
either
* a vandal managed by an idiot
* a fire drill

Typically
* running the bot under an ip rather than loggued in
user
* giving up after a couple of minutes
* only using a dozen ip at most
* running on small wikis at the very moment when it is
most likely for people to be watching rather than 
off-peak hours
* same comment and same text everywhere

== How could we detect a vandal bot ? ==
* more than xxx edits per minut with a max of yy edits
per t mn
* replacement of a text of more than xxx characters
per a chain of less than yyy characters, this more
than t times (especially the same text)
* replacement of a text of more than xxx characters
per picture, this more than t times (especially the
same picture)
* replacement of a text of more than xxx characters
per blank page, this more than t times
* identical comment per same user more than t times

Pros : some perfectly acceptable actions can be
repeted many times (reversion, typos...)
:reponse : why not make a list of old-hands loggued
users who might be excluded from the watch ?

== How could detection system alert people ? ==
* automatic alert on mailing lists (main list,
wikitech list, specific language list)
* personnal mail alert for designed users, for
specific language
* general alert with visual indicator on all wikipedia
(specific to language, example : interlanguage gets
red)
* personnal alert on talk pages of designed used

== How could we stop the vandal bot ? ==

* international sysops
* in recent change, the status of the ip or of the
loggued-user must be displayed ("block this ip" or "ip
blocked")
* possibility to limit the number of edit per page of
a loggued-in user per a sysop
cons : abuse during edit war
answer : peer pressure

== How could we repair the damage ? ==
* RepairBot
Spec :

1. accessibility
:from the special pages
:directly from recent change by clicking on the "ip
blocked" link
:sysop only ?
:feature available only for blocked user or ip to
limit abuse

2. Displays a page, with the vandal ip or user name,
list of pages with "top" qualification (vandal was
last to edit)
3. the repairBot go through all those pages one after
the other; check if the last edit was the vandal one,
revert to the last before vandalism.
4. repairBot is a non-loggued ip, to be stopped by a
sysop

cons : abuse during edit war
Answer : the bot could be used only by a sysop
different from the one who did the block


> 
> > Peut-être revenir m'aider maintenant... il est
> revenu !!!
> >
> > > holalala, mais qu est ce qu on va faire !!!!!
> > >
> > > --- athymik <athymik at ifrance.com> wrote:
> > > > Bonjour à tous,
> > > >
> > > > Iala'29899 est revenu nous dire bonjour alors
> :
> > > >
> > > > * diff) (hist) . . Alcaloïde; 22:16 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albin; 22:16 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alberta; 22:16 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albert King; 22:16 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albert Ducrocq; 22:15 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albert Collins; 22:15 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albert Camus; 22:15 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albanie; 22:15 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Albanais; 22:15 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alan Greenspan; 22:15 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Ai; 22:15 . . Francis
> (revert)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alan Cox; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alain Madelin; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alain Juppé; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Alain-Fournier; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Al-Bahnasah; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akseli Gallen-Kallela;
> 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akira Kurosawa; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akihito; 22:14 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akihabara; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akhénaton; 22:14 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akhit; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akhenaton; 22:13 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akh; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aker; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akenaton; 22:13 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Akachan; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aka; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aisne; 22:13 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aires protégées; 22:13 . .
> > > > 213.4.108.197 (bloquer)
> > > > (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Ain; 22:12 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aiguchi; 22:12 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Aichi; 22:12 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899
> > > > RULEZ)
> > > > * (diff) (hist) . . Ai; 22:12 . .
> 213.4.108.197
> > > > (bloquer) (Iala'29899 RULEZ)
> > > >
> > > > Voila... @+ HELP ! On est que trois...
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > >
> > >
>
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