Ok here's the URL to the interesting site: http://www.ukans.edu/history/index/europe/ancient_rome/E/Gazetteer/Places/Eu rope/Italy/Umbria/Perugia/Gubbio/Gubbio/0.html Since it has gone onto two lines you may need to paste it together. Note the notice and link down at the bottom dealing with copywrite and be sure to click on it. Fred