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more associated with Hilton individually. We of course should make sure all
this is very clear, though, while moving forward.
>
> Also, the Chapter's involvement need not necessarily be on a volunteer
> basis should we wish to help with training and outreach, as I know that WMF
> have funds available and we could always put a small proposal together to
> help with this, should this be our focus.
>
> Yes: if there are costs associated, this is definitely the type of project
a grant could help cover.
Regards
> Kerryn
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> Kerryn McKay
> The African Commons Project
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> 082 334 6165
> skype: kerrynmac
> twitter: kerrynmckay
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> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:35 PM, David Richfield <
> davidrichfield at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Kieran: this is a very interesting perspective on the situation,
>> and one that I wasn't aware of.
>>
>> I would be perfectly happy to work with a profit-making organisation to
>> help them provide Wikipedia for Schools to a wider audience, as long as
>> their aims are compatible with ours, but I would never knowingly support an
>> organisation that is inimical towards software freedom, so I'll wait to hear
>> a bit more before committing my time to this.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> David
>> On 13 May 2011 9:44 PM, "Jessie Wild" <jwild at wikimedia.org> wrote:
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Kerryn=
McKay <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:kerryn at africancommons.org">k=
erryn at africancommons.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex;">
<font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif">Hi all<br><br>Coming into the thread slightly later as I've bee=
n offline most of the weekend.=A0 This sounds interesting.=A0 Jessie, can y=
ou give us an indication of why Sangari SA contacted you in particular?=A0 =
Did they have a particular request or proposal that they were putting to yo=
u in this regard?<br>
<br></font></font></font></blockquote><div>Sure: In short, the contact was =
initiated by me to get as an attempt to better understand the breadth of ou=
r distribution of offline Wikipedia thus far.=A0=A0 <br><br>I had reached o=
ut to a contact at the Shuttleworth Foundation to learn (a) where they had =
distributed Wikipedia for Schools and (b) how many people have access to th=
e offline resources. Two goals for finding these things out:<br>
<ul><li><b>Reach/impact estimate: </b>We are trying to add some sort of est=
imate onto the monthly report card regarding the estimated offline viewersh=
ip and in order to do this, we need to understand where these offline versi=
ons are being accessed.=A0 This would be helpful in forming a more robust a=
nd accurate picture of the Wikipedia project's reach.<br>
</li><li><b>Distribution network</b>: An updated version of Wikipedia for S=
chools is being developed to come out in about one month, in addition to an=
updated version of Kiwix (the offline reader).=A0 We currently have no &qu=
ot;update" network, and it would be great tor revive these ties so tha=
t the updated information can be dispersed.</li>
</ul>Communication has been quite minimal thus far: Shuttleworth put me in =
contact with Hilton who now works for Sangari SA. Hilton gave me a brief up=
date on the state of the WPFS distributions as well as receptivity in the e=
ducation realm. He asked if we had ideas for effective distributions of new=
er copies, and before I volunteered our network of WIkimedians, I emailed t=
his list serve to make sure it was a potential goal worth pursuing!=A0 <br>
<br>I hadn't contacted him with the express intent of expanding the pla=
ces of distribution, but his response indicating the recent receptivity of =
the Ministry of Education made me think this is a unique opportunity worth =
digging into further in South Africa.<br>
<br>=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt=
0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">=
<font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif">I agree with David that even if it's a for-profit this shouldn&=
#39;t make too much of a difference if we find that their mandate and objec=
tives for this particular project are aligned with the Wikimedia ZA chapter=
's objectives.=A0</font></font></font></blockquote>
<div>+1<br>=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: =
0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left:=
1ex;"><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif"> Although I don't know much about Sangari SA, Hilton The=
unissen is actually on the board of our organisation, The African Commons P=
roject and he has always been a staunch open source guy.=A0 But again, it m=
ight help to understand what Sangari's proposed involvement would be so=
that we can see where, how and if the Chapter could fit in with the initia=
tive.<br>
</font></font></font></blockquote><div><br>From what I can tell, this proje=
ct is less associated with Sangari, and much more associated with Hilton in=
dividually. We of course should make sure all this is very clear, though, w=
hile moving forward.<br>
=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt=
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><fon=
t color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if">
<br>Also, the Chapter's involvement need not necessarily be on a volunt=
eer basis should we wish to help with training and outreach, as I know that=
WMF have funds available and we could always put a small proposal together=
to help with this, should this be our focus.<br>
</font></font></font><br></blockquote><div>Yes: if there are costs associat=
ed, this is definitely the type of project a grant could help cover.<br><br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex=
; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D"2"><font face=3D"arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif">Regards<br>Kerryn<br><br clear=3D"all"></font></font></font><br><br=
>* * * *<br>Kerryn McKay<br>The African Commons Project<br><br>082 334 6165=
<br>
skype:=A0 kerrynmac<br>twitter:=A0 kerrynmckay<br><br><br><br><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">On Fri=
, May 13, 2011 at 10:35 PM, David Richfield <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:davidrichfield at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">davidrichfield at gmail=
.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><=
/div><div class=3D"h5">
<p>Thanks Kieran: this is a very interesting perspective on the situation, =
and one that I wasn't aware of.</p>
<p>I would be perfectly happy to work with a profit-making organisation to =
help them provide Wikipedia for Schools to a wider audience, as long as the=
ir aims are compatible with ours, but I would never knowingly support an or=
ganisation that is inimical towards software freedom, so I'll wait to h=
ear a bit more before committing my time to this.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>David</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 13 May 2011 9:44 PM, "Jessie Wild" =
<<a href=3D"mailto:jwild at wikimedia.org" target=3D"_blank">jwild at wikimedi=
a.org</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"></div>
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