On 19 September 2012 07:59, Doug Weller <dougweller(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I see a request to block Roger's
User:Victuallers account as it is in
contravention of our Username policy on promotional names -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username_policy#Promotional_names
Normally for an account this old (2007) we might not ask for a change
of name, but given the circumstances I think a name change might be a
good idea.
Doug Weller
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I've located some more information about
Geovation now by myself:
https://challenge.geovation.org.uk/a/dtd/119163-16422
Wales Coast Path only: What theme of the challenge does your idea
address?:
3. Community engagement What problem are you
trying to solve? : Green
tourism: what's around me? What makes it different?
How will your idea work? : There are two parts, fist we meet local
groups
and show them how to add information onto a
Wikipedia page: and that's
really simple! Secondly we show them how their articles can be
geotagged.
The best part is enjoying a walk down the path
with a smart phone,
with any
AR tagged articles shown through the camera,
informing the User
(tourist or
local) about what's around them: history of
that unusual building or
where's
the nearest Young Farmers Club? What's the
name of that mountain, and
where's the nearest toilet! Take a look at MonmouthpediA on Wikipedia
and
multiply it by 10!
How will it provide a solution to the Challenge? : It's the best answer
possible! The local WI (or Merched y Wawr) will bring along old
photographs,
which would be scanned in and uploaded, and their
locations geotagged.
They
would learn new skills on how to edit existing
articles and how to
create
new ones. The local chapel could write about the
history of their
chapel,
and so could the local cafe - including the
opening times! Schools
could
show off their latest Brochure for Parents and
even nature clubs could
write
about the local habitats. This is about: bringing
people together in
order
to inform walkers, cyclists and joggers
what's around them.
What is the stage of development? What help and investment you need to
build
it?: Because Wikipedia is so simple, it's
ideal for this project.
Communities know about the geography and history, and culture of their
area
MUCH better than an app writer or web-author
sitting in his office in
Manchester! Wikimedia UK would be asked to run the scheme, employing
Wikipedians, just as the National Library does in London... and the
National
Museum etc. Their help would be crucial. Welsh
Wicipedians have also
shown
their enthusiasm and would filter out any
unwanted vandalism.
Wikipedia has
a proven track record: why re-create the wheel
all the time? It's an
app
which is already installed on most iPads and
iPhones! Pure and simple.
Neighbourhood Challenge only: How would you use Ordnance Survey data
in your
solution? : See below.
Wales Coast Path only: How will you use geographic information in your
solution? : Yes! Geotagging on Wikipedia is so easy! One line and the
whole
article pops up! Through Layar (invisible to the
User), we would view
through the camera's phone what's around us, and automatically a
number
of
Wikipedian "W"s pop up wherever the
article's location is. For
example, an
User takes a look at a cluster of mountains, and
immediately the "W"
shows
that there is an article written, so the user
chooses a mountain with
his or
her finger and they're straight into the
article! And not just Cymraeg
and
English: there are over 250 languages on
Wikipedia. All articles would
be
geographically and traditionally (OS) tagged.
http://www.geovation.org.uk/teams-win-innovation-funding-wales-coast-path-c…
Living Paths – Roger Bamkin and Robin Owain of Monmouthpedia were the
pair
behind this idea which will allow communities
along the path to create
a
Wikipedia page and post stories about their
communities allowing
diverse
local information to become accessible. Awarded:
£17,500.
As I see it, this is a programme whereby Wikimedia UK pays Wikipedians
to
get members of the public to become volunteer
editors. You can see it
as an
editor recruitment programme, and as a programme
to secure unemployed
Wikipedian friends paid employment. There has been practically no
discussion
of this on wiki to date.
Andreas
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Thomas Morton
<morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Hmm, well this is getting Murkier still. Have people violated these
> principles.
>
> Someone on Jimbo's talk linked to this article:
>
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=25440
>
> Which:
>
> a) Identifies Roger as WMUK director with implication he is acting in
> official capacity
> b) Says that Gibraltar approached WMUK
>
> I appreciated this is the media, so inaccuracey is likely. But I
suggest
> we quickly resolve the following issues:
>
> * Did Gibraltar approach WMUK, or is this incorrect & they approached
the
> Monmouthpedia orgnaisers?
> * If they did not approach WMUK, did they think, or were they led to
think
> they were approaching WMUK by whoever they
did approach?
> * Has Roger used his position as WMUK director to obtain this
Gibraltar
> contract?
>
> I'm AGF that nothing untoward has happened here, but I suggest a
statement
> be issued with some urgency to clear these
matters up. Or it may well
> backfire on the charity.
>
> Tom
>
> On 18 September 2012 08:55, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> Indeed - I think it is even mentioned in one of our many governance
>> documents.
>>
>>
>> On 18 September 2012 08:52, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whilst there may be no precise misdemeanor, can we assume that our
>>> charity (Wikimedia UK) follows and applies the Nolan Principles to
all
>>> Trustees?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
http://www.archive.official-documents.co.uk/document/parlment/nolan/nolan.h…
>>>
>>>
>>> Gordo
>>>
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