[Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 18

cliff argwings caargwings at gmail.com
Wed Jul 20 05:22:02 UTC 2011 

Thanks Abbas,

But then , the link you sent me leads to some blank page, and again, how do
I change my digest settings to 'off' as you suggested?

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:14 AM, <wikimediake-request at lists.wikimedia.org>wrote:

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> From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 16
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> Cliff,
> Here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Kenya/bylaws
> You might want to change your digest settings to off -- which is why you
> have a problem keeping up to speed.
> Abbas.
>
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:04:06 +0300
> From: caargwings at gmail.com
> To: wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 16
>
> Hey Abbas,
> Where can I read the bylaws of wikimedia kenya? I haven't had a look at
> them.
>
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>   1. Re: Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments (Abbas Mahmood)
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>   2. Re: Khan Academy (deonte munene)
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>   3. Re: Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments (wanjaustev at gmail.com)
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> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:07:09 +0000
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> From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr at hotmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments
>
> To: Wikimedia Kenya <wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org>
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> Erm, I think we forgot no.6:
>
> 6. If someone just doesn't pay fees, when will he/she no longer be a
> member? Usually bylaws have a clause saying something along the lines "if
> you didn't pay your dues for more than a year, and two reminders have been
> sent the board may remove membership from you".
>
>
> My opinion is that if you haven't paid the membership fees, you aren't
> considered as a member so we wouldn't have to "remove membership" from you
> in the first place. This, of course, doesn't mean that such a person is not
> allowed to attend meetings, etc but what he can not do is vote. I also
> suggest that members should also be given priority over non-members when it
> comes to participating in projects. (e.g., it would be unfair to take a
> non-member to Mombasa for the Wikipedia for Schools project when there was a
> member who wanted to go.)
>
>
>
>
> Abbas.
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:26:07 +0300
>
> > From: oslimoke at gmail.com
>
> > To: wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org
>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments
>
> >
>
> > Abbas,
>
> > I agree with that.Lets adopt it.
>
> > Any more queries?
>
> >
>
> > On 7/16/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > Here's what Stephen and I suggested:
>
> > > A minimum of one third of the members can call for a Special Resolution
>
> > > Meeting, with notice given to all members at least 7 days in advance.
>
> > > However, a majority of two thirds of the members' votes shall be
> required to
>
> > > remove a director, or the whole Board.
>
> > > Abbas.
>
> > >> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:20:55 +0300
>
> > >> From: oslimoke at gmail.com
>
> > >> To: wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org
>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Abbas,
>
> > >> >> I suggest we say 10% of the members can call for a "Special
> Meeting"
>
> > >> >> to express a vote of no confidence in the board.However such a vote
>
> > >> >> should only be considered valid if atleast 30% of the members
> partake
>
> > >> >> in it and that the voting out of the board/resolution should be
>
> > >> >> supported by 50% +1 of the voting members(i.e the 30% present)....
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > May I try to interpret what you are saying in actual figures?
>
> > >> > 10% of ~20 members = 2 members.30% of ~20 members = 6 members51% of
> the
>
> > >> > 6
>
> > >> > members = 4 members
>
> > >> > So therefore in simpler terms, what you are saying is that at least
> 2
>
> > >> > members can call for a Special Resolution and the vote is only
>
> > >> > considered
>
> > >> > valid if at least 6 members partake in the voting and the voting out
> of
>
> > >> > the
>
> > >> > board should be supported by at least 4 members?
>
> > >> > If this is what you are implying, I disagree with it. Once again, I
>
> > >> > borrow
>
> > >> > precedence from Wikimedia Deutschland's case (mentioned earlier
>
> > >> > upthread)
>
> > >> > where they require a majority to remove the Board. 6 out of 20
> members
>
> > >> > is
>
> > >> > not a majority.
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Your interpretation is correct.And yes that's my thought and the %
>
> > >> were arbitrary.We could revise them upwards.Plus am considering the
>
> > >> fact that definitely not all members will be present nor would partake
>
> > >> in the elections.Maybe we revise the % upwards??
>
> > >> Regards,
>
> > >>
>
> > >> --
>
> > >> Limoke Oscar,
>
> > >>
>
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> > Limoke Oscar,
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> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:33:25 +0000
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> From: deonte munene <deontemunene at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Khan Academy
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> Great idea Abbas,  i'm for it. I also support Jessie's idea of adding video
> links to the offline wikipedia. I hope that it's possible.
>
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>
> Yours,
>
> Dennis.
>
>
>
> From: abartov at wikimedia.org
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> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:04:08 -0700
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> To: wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Khan Academy
>
>
>
> Excellent idea, Abbas, and thank you, Jessie, for these links.
>
> Note that Camara is represented in Kenya, in Mombasa:
> http://kenya.camara.ie/
>
>
>
>
>
> Perhaps WMKE can help Camara expand the Kenya operation?  Perhaps,
> likewise, Camara can support and help WMKE?  Please take some time to look
> into this.
>
> Could we maybe reach out to them and see if we can get them to meet us in
> Nairobi during my upcoming visit?
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>    Asaf
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Jessie Wild <jwild at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey all -
>
>
>
> yes, Khan is something that is widely distributed in the same open
> education resources community that our Offline Wikipedia is very popular in!
> There are some offline projects that already package it together with our
> resources along with others, including Camara[1] and the RACHEL education
> portal.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> It would be awesome to figure out ways to add links (for example, at the
> top of a page in italics) to specific articles within the offline Wikipedia
> that sync to a complementary video lesson, imho :)
>
>
>
> Jessie
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> [1] http://camara.ie/web/
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> [2] http://rachel.worldpossible.org/
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> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:21 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
>
> Yep , I definately endorse this idea because it is in appraisal of our
> objectives as a chapter.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Stephen W. Wanjau
>
>
>
> On Jul 13, 2011 7:41 PM, "Limoke Oscar" <oslimoke at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have found its lessons very useful of it.And I would suggest we
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > incorporate the meetup with Asaf's meetup.
>
> > I definitely support the idea
>
> >
>
> > On 7/13/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>
>
>
>
> >> Greetings,
>
> >> Has anyone of you guys heard of Khan Academy(www.khanacademy.org)? Khan
>
> >> Academy is a multiple-award winning non-profit organization/website that
> has
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> free collections of educational videos ranging from Math, Calculus,
> Algebra,
>
> >> Chemistry, Physics, Statistics and man more.
>
> >> I was thinking of carrying out an offline project with Khan where we'd
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> download and distribute these videos to educational institutions
> probably
>
> >> during September. If you guys are interested, I'll arrange a meetup
> where we
>
> >> could discuss the way forward.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Cheers,Abbas.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --
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> > Limoke Oscar,
>
> > mayenge.blogspot.com
>
> > Freelancer,
>
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> Jessie Wild
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> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:42:43 +0300
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> From: wanjaustev at gmail.com
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments
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> To: "The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.      "
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> True.
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> Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> >Erm, I think we forgot no.6:
>
> >6. If someone just doesn't pay fees, when will he/she no longer be a
> member? Usually bylaws have a clause saying something along the lines "if
> you didn't pay your dues for more than a year, and two reminders have been
> sent the board may remove membership from you".
>
>
> >My opinion is that if you haven't paid the membership fees, you aren't
> considered as a member so we wouldn't have to "remove membership" from you
> in the first place. This, of course, doesn't mean that such a person is not
> allowed to attend meetings, etc but what he can not do is vote. I also
> suggest that members should also be given priority over non-members when it
> comes to participating in projects. (e.g., it would be unfair to take a
> non-member to Mombasa for the Wikipedia for Schools project when there was a
> member who wanted to go.)
>
>
> >
>
> >Abbas.
>
> >
>
> >> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:26:07 +0300
>
> >> From: oslimoke at gmail.com
>
> >> To: wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org
>
> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments
>
> >>
>
> >> Abbas,
>
> >> I agree with that.Lets adopt it.
>
> >> Any more queries?
>
> >>
>
> >> On 7/16/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >
>
> >> > Here's what Stephen and I suggested:
>
> >> > A minimum of one third of the members can call for a Special
> Resolution
>
> >> > Meeting, with notice given to all members at least 7 days in advance.
>
> >> > However, a majority of two thirds of the members' votes shall be
> required to
>
> >> > remove a director, or the whole Board.
>
> >> > Abbas.
>
> >> >> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:20:55 +0300
>
> >> >> From: oslimoke at gmail.com
>
> >> >> To: wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org
>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> Abbas,
>
> >> >> >> I suggest we say 10% of the members can call for a "Special
> Meeting"
>
> >> >> >> to express a vote of no confidence in the board.However such a
> vote
>
> >> >> >> should only be considered valid if atleast 30% of the members
> partake
>
> >> >> >> in it and that the voting out of the board/resolution should be
>
> >> >> >> supported by 50% +1 of the voting members(i.e the 30% present)....
>
> >> >> >
>
> >> >> > May I try to interpret what you are saying in actual figures?
>
> >> >> > 10% of ~20 members = 2 members.30% of ~20 members = 6 members51% of
> the
>
> >> >> > 6
>
> >> >> > members = 4 members
>
> >> >> > So therefore in simpler terms, what you are saying is that at least
> 2
>
> >> >> > members can call for a Special Resolution and the vote is only
>
> >> >> > considered
>
> >> >> > valid if at least 6 members partake in the voting and the voting
> out of
>
> >> >> > the
>
> >> >> > board should be supported by at least 4 members?
>
> >> >> > If this is what you are implying, I disagree with it. Once again, I
>
> >> >> > borrow
>
> >> >> > precedence from Wikimedia Deutschland's case (mentioned earlier
>
> >> >> > upthread)
>
> >> >> > where they require a majority to remove the Board. 6 out of 20
> members
>
> >> >> > is
>
> >> >> > not a majority.
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> Your interpretation is correct.And yes that's my thought and the %
>
> >> >> were arbitrary.We could revise them upwards.Plus am considering the
>
> >> >> fact that definitely not all members will be present nor would
> partake
>
> >> >> in the elections.Maybe we revise the % upwards??
>
> >> >> Regards,
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> --
>
> >> >> Limoke Oscar,
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
>
> >> >> WikimediaKE mailing list
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> >> >> WikimediaKE at lists.wikimedia.org
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> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
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> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >> Limoke Oscar,
>
> >> mayenge.blogspot.com
>
> >> Freelancer,
>
> >> GeoInformatics and GIScience Student
>
> >>
>
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