[Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011

Mon Apr 11 10:54:26 UTC 2011

Abbas,you were able to capture everything , i personally don't have any
objection to..company limited ,if it works for us as it worked for the UK
chapter ,so be it and as Abbas had put all these are legal vehicles to make
us our objectives.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr at hotmail.com> wrote:

> OK, I'll wikify the minutes.
>
> The lawyer told me that it is not his job to decide for us, but advise us
> on the legal vehicle.
>
> Grace also shared with me her concerns of the relevance of people voting
> over the best legal vehicle.
>
> Therefore, if people don't want to vote, and the lawyer is not in a
> position to choose for us; I am going to tell him to redact the bylaws in
> accordance with company limited by guarantee. Are there any objections?
>
> I did not want to be the one to choose this, so as to encourage collective
> responsibility, but anyway..
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 13:02:07 +0300
> From: oslimoke at gmail.com
>
> To: wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011
>
> Hi Guys,
> Good to see progress in the By-Laws thorny issue.I am at the moment caught
> up with work and I have very intermittent internet access and very limited
> time to myself.(Paying for my long absence for Wikimedia staff  :P)
>
> Anyway,Congratulations to Alex for the Wikimania and I hope we be the
> Chapter to be announced at the Wikimania like SA at Berlin
>
> I would also opine that we should not let the members vote for the best
> Legal way to go since most of us have limited legal understanding.Let the
> the Lawyer advice in between the two and we take the best option rather than
> vote as voting may result in not necessarily the best option but the popular
> option...just my 2 cents
>
> Otherwise the deliberations at the meeting are great and congratulations
> guys for the good work.
>
> Abbas,please please could u find time to put the minutes on our Wiki?just
> for reference?..Thank you
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Ann Njeri <njeriannk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Abbas, now understand
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2011, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ann,
> >
> > clearly, you haven't been following the discussions during the past week.
> I hope that this is the final time I'll be repeating this:
> >
> > I'm going to speak for myself and state that I think co. ltd by guarantee
> is the best option since we have precedence of how it's working from
> Wikimedia UK. After registration, we will then apply for tax
> exemption/non-profit status from the Ministry of Finance.
> >
> > Sam,
> > I'm on the Wikimania 2012 Jury, and we are going to announce the host
> city in due course of the day, so keep your eyes open :)
> >
> > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:24:15 +0300
> > From: coolsam726 at gmail.com
> > To: wikimediake at lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup Minutes: 09/04/2011
> >
> > First of all, I still regret since my "absence with apologies" is not a
> good enough experience for me. However, congraturations to all who made it
> to the meeting, and congraturations for the constructive discussion that you
> had.
> > I won't forget to congraturate Alex for getting the chance to represent
> us in Haifa, Israel this year. This should be an encouragement and a good
> sign that now every year Kenya seems to have a representative at the
> Wikimania (I Personally crave for the 2012 one :)).
> > I believe that we will have more physical meetings when all schools
> reopen, ie when internships are over. Right now, I would urge us to once
> again take our free time to go through the legal options we have with a
> scrutinizing eye so that we can make the perfect choice since this is a very
> critical step in our chapter formation
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Ann Njeri <njeriannk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Good work guys, I'm embarrassed that I forgot to send my apologies. If I
> may ask, what were the reasons that.led you to decide on a company limited
> by guarante?
> >
> > On Apr 10, 2011 5:06 PM, "Abbas Mahmood" <abbasjnr at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ladies and gentlemen,
> >> We got to have a meetup this weekend. My dear friend/secretary, Grace,
> was absent and unfortunately we didn't have a note-taker! So please pardon
> me, for my not-so-professional minute-writing skills.
> >> To the members who were present: kindly add anything I might have
> forgotten in the minutes below. Also, if I have forgotten any member who was
> present/absent with apologies, I'm sorry!
> >> All in all, this meetup had a few hiccups with venue changes and
> starting late; but I do believe that we had sound discussions, so thanks to
> those who made it :)
> >> I am, yours,Abbas
> >> ---
> >>
> >> Minutes of the Meetup held at University of Nairobi, adjacent to the
> Fountain of Knowledge on 09/04/2011. The Meetup started way behind schedule.
> >> == Members Present: ==Lillian NyareraBranton ObwariChris RiwaStephen
> WanjauAlex WafulaDennis MuneneCliff OchiengAbbas Mahmood
> >> == Absent with Apologies:[1] ==Oliver StegenSam MaosaIsaac KosgeiDavid
> Mugo
> >> == Agenda ==
> >> -The legal vehicle for registration was deliberated. Although most, if
> not all, of us agreed on choosing company limited by guarantee; we will give
> members a chance to vote for the model they want.
> >> -It was also unanimously decided that the membership fee be KES500 p.a.
> Failure to pay this membership fee will result in that person not having
> membership rights, such as the right to vote.
> >> -Basing on the KISS (Keep it Stupid n Simple) rule, we also decided to
> strip off all the classes of membership, and just have one category of
> members: ordinary members.
> >> -It was also suggested that we add one more member to the board, so as
> to have an odd-numbered board for voting purposes. It was also suggested
> that the title of this post be Organizing Secretary or Project Manager - who
> will basically be involved in projects/events organizing.
> >> -It was also suggested that the Board members can run/hold for their
> posts for a maximum of two consecutive years. Some (or is it most?) African
> leaders are notorious for clinging in power, so this was a measure suggested
> to counter this phenomenon. It was also argued that we could have a leader
> that performs so well and therefore we should not limit his/her term but
> rather judge by merit.
> >> -The Nyeri team also told us about their experience -- apparently they
> were unaware of the official pilot document that was letter-headed by the
> Foundation that they could use when approaching schools.
> >> -It was also announced that Alex Wafula had been awarded a fully-paid
> trip to attend Wikimania 2011, in Haifa. If there is any other person[s]
> going to Wikimania, kindly notify us.
> >> The meetup was adjourned at some minutes past 1pm.-----[1] Absent with
> apologies - members who sent notice on the mailing list with regrets of
> being unable to attend.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------
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