[Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

[Shiju Alex]

In fact, bot edits in Indian Wikis is also an interesting metric. For
example, see the below table to understand share of the *percentage of bot
edits* across some major Indian wikis.

   - Bengali - 76
   - Bishnupriya Manipuri  - 97
   - Gujarati  - 37
   - Hindi - 50
   - Kannada - 59
   - Malayalam -  42
   - Marathi  - 62
   - Sanskrit - 85
   - Tamil - 51
   - Telugu - 51
   - Urdu  - 59

I know that for some Indian language wikipedians the only relevant metric is
*number of articles*. But of course, not for the Malayalam wikipedians. We
saw much value in all the metric that is published at
http://stats.wikimedia.org/. I know many others are also finding value to
it, that is why it is published every month.

Shiju Alex



On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM, BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbecse at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Praveen,
>
> You've shown how much insight we can glean by provoking Malayalam Wiki
> friends. ;)
> We all got a great inside view of the different aspects of participation in
> one of the finest Indian wikis.
>
>
> > So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I welcome
> them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home
> > wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :)
>
> I don't think anyone doubted that.
>
>
> - Sundar
>
> "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
> for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
> - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
>
>
> *From:* praveenp <me.praveen at gmail.com>
>
> *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. <
> wikimediaindia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Sent:* Thu, January 27, 2011 5:58:25 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10
> Lakh/1 million edits milestone
>
> On Thursday 27 January 2011 10:31 AM, Ravishankar wrote:
>
> Its not just about stubs.
>
> We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles
> they wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be
> uploaded in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits.
>
> According to
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias
>
> *"Depths above 300 for Wikipedias<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Notes>below 100 000 articles have been automatically dismissed as irrelevant."
> *
> When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs.
> The same should not happen when we focus on edit counts.
>
> Ravi
>
> This may be nothing related to original thread. Sorry. Malayalam wikipedia
> has its strength and its weakness.
>
> Depth is just an indicator of collaborative character of editors. For a
> massive multiauthor collaboration site, some measurement mechanism is better
> than none. But I don't think large number of edits are bad. If anyone thinks
> that articel by single edit is better than multi edited article, I must say
> thats not wiki style :( .
>
> But there is an another issue, number of bot edits. Many ml users, mainly
> students, like to play with bots. Malayalam Wikipedia has never discouraged
> anyone for testing their bots (if their edits are okay), because user
> satisfaction is also a Wikipedia goal. We know that eventually they will
> create a great bot :).  Sometimes running a bot is not very simple. I had a
> spell checker bot and I had to overview all of its edits, because of
> Malayalam's ligatures and grammatical rules [or may be because bad logic
> ;-)]. Even after running couple of months, it threw exceptions. So I'll say
> bot edits also are a kind of manual inputs. Now there are many global bots,
> most of them contributing interwiki. Bot conflict and bot-edit-war occurs
> occasionally which we usually avoided by protecting the page or by noticing
> the owner (Recent eg: See history of വർഗ്ഗം:ഫലകങ്ങൾ<http://ml.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BC%E0%B4%97%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%82:%E0%B4%AB%E0%B4%B2%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%99%E0%B5%BE&action=history>).
>
>
> Malayalam Wikipedia is a small wiki, just over 16000 pages on main
> namespace, so it is easy to exaggerate bot contribution. But actually it is
> not, whenever a bot identified as doing  unwanted edit it gets blocked.
>
> There are many wiki-projects which always engage users to do something on
> wiki. So whenever a user find an error, even it is the minute one, he/she
> corrects it. Nobody waits for large content to edit. Many portal (കവാടം)
> pages are there, which helps users to find their favourite topic.
>
> In ml.wp - many pages in category namespace (there is an active
> categorization wiki-project, which keeps articles finely categorized), large
> number of templates and many help pages and project pages with good content
> (I'm sure that many of these help pages and project pages are really useful
> to new users to jump start wikipedia) are available. I think we are using
> talk pages aslo very well.
>
> It is clear from depth formula, that all these factors can be incremental
> to "depth". So if anybody believes that Malayalam Wikipedia is irrelevant, I
> welcome them to there to check its irrelevancy and contribute their home
> wikii until it become irrelevant like Malayalam Wikipedia. :)
>
>
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