[Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 million edits milestone

BalaSundaraRaman sundarbecse at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 27 07:29:47 UTC 2011


+1. Yes, milestones are nice things to celebrate, but not something to start 
regarding as a metric.

- Sundar

 "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for 
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture


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>From: CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian at gmail.com>
>To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. 
><wikimediaindia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 11:45:17 AM
>Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Malayalam wikipedia crossed the 10 Lakh/1 
>million edits milestone
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>Although page depth was not really connected with the current 
>trend,  Personally, I think page depth is no longer a reliable metric for 
>comparison, here is why I think so.
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>Assamese Wikipedia ( 312 articles) : page depth is 339 . 
>Sindi ( 355 articles): 381
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>Compare this with 
>Bengali ( 22,062 articles) : 374
>Malayalam ( 16,414 articles) : 320
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>It is self-explanatory...
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>Technically 1 million edits is a cute milestone ( congrats to ml wiki) to take 
>notice, but we cannot consider it as real metric for comparison among 
>Wikipedias. There are language Wikipedias where Google translation/Machine 
>translations or bot created articles are banned or controlled tightly. There 
>are Wikipedias, where they have a free run. Please note that I am not saying 
>taht they are either good or bad. There are Wikipedias where constant updation 
>of articles happening, due a vibrant Wikicommunity. There are Wikipedians who 
>like to work on the articles offline and then bring it live with a single edit. 
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>Having said that, it is advisable to do what each community feels best for their 
>language Wikipedia. Of course, it is good to have an healthy competition :)
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>But everybody, please do continue to report such interesting milestones and 
>statistics. We all love that...
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>-Tinu Cherian 
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>On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline at gmail.com> wrote:
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>We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they 
>wrote offline with just one edit per article. 
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>That happens in all the wikipedias which has an active community. That might 
>also be possible with the the Google translation project. 
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>>In general, quality of a wiki article improves as more people work on it. More 
>>edits from more number of users means more quality on the wiki article. 
>>Otherwise there is no difference between a knol/blogpost and a wiki article. :)
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>>"Depths above 300 for Wikipedias below 100 000 articles have been automatically 
>>dismissed as irrelevant."
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>Who has mentioned about the depth in the below mail?
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>>When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs.  The 
>>same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. 
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>Yes. All wikis has stubs and almost of the articles are created as stub 
>articles. 
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>>Shiju
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>On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Ravishankar <ravidreams at gmail.com> wrote:
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>Its not just about stubs. 
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>>We have users in Tamil Wikipedia who bulk upload 100s of complete articles they 
>>wrote offline with just one edit per article. One great article can be uploaded 
>>in one click and one mediocre article can have 100s of edits. 
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>>According to 
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>>http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias
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>>"Depths above 300 for Wikipedias below 100 000 articles have been automatically 
>>dismissed as irrelevant."
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>>When we focus on number of articles, some end up creating useless stubs. The 
>>same should not happen when we focus on edit counts. 
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>>Ravi
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>>On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian at gmail.com> 
>>wrote:
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>>What probably Arjuna meant was that, some of Wikipedias are more welcoming to 
>>the creation of stub articles. I am not saying that Malayalam 
>>Wikipedia doesn't though... 
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>>>-Tinu Cherian 
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