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the chapter wiki will increase the number and range of things happening in
Australia and therefore become a driver of membership and activity. But, I'd
like to hear what the current non-members think.
-Liam
(yes, I'm a member)
wittylama.com/blog
Peace, love & metadata
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Sarah Ewart <sarahewart at gmail.com> wrote:
> I assume it's the same with our wiki though I haven't actually checked
> myself, but usually editing the MediaWiki interface pages requires admin
> rights. We really don't want people stuffing around at will with the main
> interface. I also agree with Andrew about the Billabong page. It's meant to
> be a page where people can make suggestions and ask for help or whatever and
> we don't want to make it harder for people to find the central
> discussion/help page if they need it. I don't see how it not being used much
> makes a difference. There's only a small number of people who even have
> accounts with edit rights and the website is still very young so you could
> justify removing just about all the sidebar links by saying they're "not
> currently used much". As Andrew said, we want to build the membership and as
> the active members grow the central discussion page will become more useful
> and important and in the interim it's there for anyone who needs it.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Andrew <orderinchaos78 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't think it's a good idea to remove it - we want to get more member
>> participation happening in 2010, and there simply wasn't the scope for that
>> in 2009, hence why it wasn't utilised.
>>
>> cheers
>> Andrew
>>
>> 2009/12/11 K. Peachey <p858snake at yahoo.com.au>
>>
>> Yes it is possible to edit it, for details:
>>> "<mwbot-deux> To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit
>>> [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see
>>> <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar>."
>>>
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I too would like to see the chapter wiki being used more, especially for pl=
anning IRL events. <br>Perhaps the issue is not so much that the "Bill=
abong" isn't the right place but that (as mentioned) it's not =
used by many people as yet - this is largely a factor of the relatively low=
number of people who are allowed to edit. Currently editing rights on the =
Australian chapter wiki are restricted to members. I note that the <a href=
=3D"http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page">UK chapter's wiki </a>allow=
s IP editing (though not on the mainpage) whilst the other English language=
chapter (NYC) focuses their attention on the <a href=3D"http://meta.wikime=
dia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_New_York_City">meta-wiki page</a> (which is also ope=
n for IP editing). <br>
<br>Given this discussion is happening on the wikimedia-au list, rather tha=
n the members'-only list, perhaps it is pertinent to ask: would the sub=
scribers to this list be more willing to become involved with the Australia=
n chapter's wiki, events, and eventually perhaps also join the chapter =
if the Wiki was open for at least logged-in editing from all people?<br>
<br>One advantage of this would be that we could centralise discussion abou=
t planning activities in Australia on the Australian chapter's wiki rat=
her than having to split it across Wikipedia's meetup pages. One disadv=
antage of this would be that one of the promoted benefits of membership (be=
ing able to edit the wiki) is no longer exclusive.<br>
<br>From a personal point of view, I believe that increasing the editabilit=
y of the chapter wiki will increase the number and range of things happenin=
g in Australia and therefore become a driver of membership and activity. Bu=
t, I'd like to hear what the current non-members think. <br>
<br>-Liam <br>(yes, I'm a member)<br><br clear=3D"all"><a href=3D"http:=
//wittylama.com/blog">wittylama.com/blog</a><br>Peace, love & metadata<=
br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Sarah =
Ewart <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:sarahewart at gmail.com">sarahew=
art at gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204)=
; padding-left: 1ex;">
I assume it's the same with our wiki though I haven't actually chec=
ked myself, but usually editing the MediaWiki interface pages requires admi=
n rights. We really don't want people stuffing around at will with the =
main interface. I also agree with Andrew about the Billabong page. It's=
meant to be a page where people can make suggestions and ask for help or w=
hatever and we don't want to make it harder for people to find the cent=
ral=A0 discussion/help page if they need it. I don't see how it not bei=
ng used much makes a difference. There's only a small number of people =
who even have accounts with edit rights and the website is still very young=
so you could justify removing just about all the sidebar links by saying t=
hey're "not currently used much". As Andrew said, we want to =
build the membership and as the active members grow the central discussion =
page will become more useful and important and in the interim it's ther=
e for anyone who needs it.<br>
<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">On=
Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Andrew <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mail=
to:orderinchaos78 at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">orderinchaos78 at gmail.com</a>=
></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>=
<div></div><div class=3D"h5">
I don't think it's a good idea to remove it - we want to get more m=
ember participation happening in 2010, and there simply wasn't the scop=
e for that in 2009, hence why it wasn't utilised.<br><br>cheers<br>
Andrew<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/12/11 K. Peachey <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
<a href=3D"mailto:p858snake at yahoo.com.au" target=3D"_blank">p858snake at yahoo=
.com.au</a>></span><div><div></div><div><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0=
pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Yes it is possible to edit it, for details:<br>
"<mwbot-deux> To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit<br>
[[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see<br>
<<a href=3D"http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar</a>>=
;."<br>
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