[Wikimediaau-l] 2008-11-09 ctte meeting minutes

Liam Wyatt liamwyatt at gmail.com
Thu Nov 13 11:12:50 UTC 2008

Wow - that's one damn long sentence! :-)

I agree entirely - this is what I was getting at with the idea of the  
"backstage tour". An organisation shows members of WM-Au around some  
part  of its facilities that are not normally accessible and we then  
donate some time to improving their article (and teaching them how to  
improve articles on the topic that that organisation knows about).  
This would be a really tangible benefit of WM-Au membership.

To respond to Andrew Garrett's concern "Money and articles don't mix"  
- this does not mean "give us money and we will improve your  
article". Rather, those organisations that are interested in working  
with us (whether they are donors *or not*) can share their expertise  
and we share our expertise back - a win win. It is just more than  
likely that the organisation that wants to be a member is the same  
kind of organisation that wants to give us a backstage tour.

Under no circumstances would it be a situation where they pay to have  
access to our editing abilities/time.


On 13/11/2008, at 10:05 PM, Confusing Manifestation wrote:

> I'd also like to see some kind of system where organisations (not
> necessarily donors) could help us improve their articles - as long as
> it's made abundantly clear to them at the start that the aim is to get
> a well-sourced, neutral article rather than a promotional puff piece,
> it would still often be in their interests to help since it would
> result in an article that at the very least won't be an attack page,
> and by keeping everything out in the open at least means that there
> will be constant scrutiny (rather than the standard pattern of someone
> editing, and someone else identifying them as having a conflict of
> interest, and the media exploding into a frenzy of "X edited an
> article on Y, shame on X!").

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