[Wikimediaau-l] Wikipedia and schools

Gnangarra gnangarra at gmail.com
Wed Dec 10 02:25:08 UTC 2008


But that exactly what being suggested with filters,

When a Britannica representative goes to a school to sell their book they
dont talk about their encyclopaedia covering topics like penis, breast and
the definitely dont suggest the school takes those pages out the books. So
why should we?


2008/12/10 private musings <thepmaccount at gmail.com>

> I (think / hope) that what I'm suggesting is certainly not censorship in
> any way - more just the reasonable expectation that some of our content may
> raise an eyebrow in schools - and that it's a good idea to be mindful of
> this in our communications and work with them.
>
> By way of further illustration, here's an example of a good faith
> contributor at commons compiling a collection of some of his favourite
> shots;
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:TwoWings/Fav#Sexy
>
> I think we're all big enough and ugly enough to accept that there's nothing
> wrong with this sort of thing, and that it's normal to enjoy eroticism - I
> think it's also perfectly fair enough for schools to want to be a bit
> careful with how they interact with this sort of material - maybe it's as
> simple as saying 'look, there's actually quite a lot of images on various
> wiki projects that you might not want your pupils to see / share / collect -
> and here's how you can help achieve this' - back to the directed projects,
> supervised access etc. I guess.....
>
> best,
>
> Peter
> PM.
>
> another example doing the rounds is this one - 'not safe for work';
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Shaved_genitalia_(female)<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Shaved_genitalia_%28female%29>
>
> (by the way - if something's 'not safe for work' - presumably it's 'not
> safe for schools' either? dunno!)
>
>
>
> 2008/12/10 Gnangarra <gnangarra at gmail.com>
>
>> Lets look at this differently, Wikipedia/Foundation is about providing
>> free access to all knowledge, how could someone who supports the project
>> consider promoting censorship of the information?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/12/10 Gnangarra <gnangarra at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 2008/12/10 private musings <thepmaccount at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <snip> though I would prefer there were better systems in place to
>>>> ensure that the images are legal (ie. models consenting and of age), and
>>>> that (per Nick) folk have some opportunity to self-select. I'd be inclined
>>>> to support a flickr like 'please click here to indicate that you're of age
>>>> to view this material' sort of thing, I think.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yep and every kid is going to just tick such a box anyway, the intention
>>> of the box is to dimish responsibility of the provider not to protect the
>>> viewer.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>> PM.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:28 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I must say, there's a certain appeal to attempting to forbid kids from
>>>>> reading encyclopedias, so they'll think it's cool.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - d.
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