Imagine a world where instead of going through security for 2 or 3 hours, flying for 4 hours and travelling by train and bus to get to and from airports in order to enjoy a physical meeting with fellow Wikimedians, you simply got a bus or train and travelled for an hour to a fun meeting place where you met several fellow Wikimedians in your country, and together spend the day playing around with immersive conferencing to workshop, discuss and learn from fellow Wikimedians in other countries. All this and still get home to spend the night in your own bed, feed your cat, or meet your kids coming back from school.
That's "making time and space for both" while taking real measurable action for climate change by reducing our entirely avoidable numbers of international flights.
The truth is, that despite discussing this since Wikimania events started, and in that time technology making doing this is almost as simple as an Affiliate hiring headsets for mobile phones, we have never even trialled decent immersive virtual conferencing spaces for productive conferencing.
Fae
On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 12:57, Rebecca O'Neill rebeccanineil@gmail.com wrote:
Is it, perhaps, that the value a lot of people derive from these events is not just the conference itself, but the ability to meet fellow Wikimedians face-to-face and make meaningful contacts and even friendships that may never otherwise have come about? I'm all about virtual, but there is value in physical events, and I would say that we should make time and space for both.
On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 12:54, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
Yes
We dont give all scholarships for that reason while for regional Wikicon we receive more requests and we fill the amount immediately.
It's not an opinion that in our events people prefer to arrive by train and not by flight. We see it as soon we receive the expenses report and when we ask the reason the answer is the climate change.
Kind regards
On Mon, 23 Sep 2019, 13:25 Gabriel Thullen, gabriel@thullen.com wrote:
I am a Swiss member, and I did go to Wikimania (and did a small presentation).
I think that you need to clarify you statement: "In Wikimedia CH we cannot give scholarships for Wikimania because people would not do long trips."
When looking up what was sais for Wikimania 2019 I read: "Wikimedia CH offers scholarships for active Wikimedians. They cover transportation, hotel (max 3 nights) from the 16th to the 18th, and registration fees. To check your eligibility, you can consult conditions
of
eligibility on this page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH/Policies/Scholarships."
Best regards Gabe
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:14 PM Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
Anyways this is perceived by the community.
In Wikimedia CH we cannot give scholarships for Wikimania because
people
would not do long trips.
IMHO the problem is these big events.
For this reason we prefer to give more scholarships for regional
wikicon
than to Wikimania.
This is the reason why you dont see more Swiss people at Wikimania.
Kind regards
On Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 00:51 Samuel Klein, meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 4:00 PM Robert Fernandez <
wikigamaliel@gmail.com
wrote:
I think we could drastically lower our carbon footprint by not
using
community digital resources to beat the same dead horse for a
billionth
time.
I laughed out loud.
AND. I love that the WMF joined the strike, and have some practical thoughts.
a) Reach out to Stripe https://stripe.com/gb/blog/negative-emissions-commitment, which
has
a
through self-assessment and a negative-emissions program, and the
Long
Now,
to coordinate efforts. b) Evaluate the community-wide carbon footprint, which is dominated
by
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