[Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

[Magnus Manske]

On a technical note, Reasonator is pure JavaScript, so should be easily
portable, even to a Wikipedia:Reasonator.js page (or several pages, with
support JS).

git here:
https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/reasonator


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Ryan Lane <rlane32 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> >
> > At this moment Wikipedia "red links" provide no information whatsoever.
> > This is not cool.
> >
> > In Wikidata we often have labels for the missing (=red link) articles. We
> > can and do provide information from Wikidata in a reasonable way that is
> > informative in the "Reasonator". We also provide additional search
> > information on many Wikipedias.
> >
> > In the Reasonator we have now implemented "red lines" [1]. They indicate
> > when a label does not exist in the primary language that is in use.
> >
> > What we are considering is creating a template {{Reasonator}} that will
> > present information based on what is available in Wikidata. Such a
> template
> > would be a stand in until an article is actually written. What we would
> > provide is information that is presented in the same way as we provide it
> > as this moment in time [2]
> >
> > This may open up a box of worms; Reasonator is NOT using any caching.
> There
> > may be lots of other reasons why you might think this proposal is evil.
> All
> > the evil that is technical has some merit but, you have to consider that
> > the other side of the equation is that we are not "sharing in the sum of
> > all knowledge" even when we have much of the missing requested
> information
> > available to us.
> >
> > One saving (technical) grace, Reasonator loads round about as quickly as
> > WIkidata does.
> >
> > As this is advance warning, I hope that you can help with the issues that
> > will come about. I hope that you will consider the impact this will have
> on
> > our traffic and measure to what extend it grows our data.
> >
> > The Reasonator pages will not show up prettily on mobile phones .. so
> does
> > Wikidata by the way. It does not consider Wikipedia zero. There may be
> more
> > issues that may require attention. But again, it beats not serving the
> > information that we have to those that are requesting it.
> >
>
> I have a strong feeling you're going to bring labs to its knees.
>
> Sending editors to labs is one thing, but you're proposing sending readers
> to labs, to a service that isn't cached.
>
> If reasonator is something we want to support for something like this,
> maybe we should consider turning it into a production service?
>
> - Ryan
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