[Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

The Cunctator cunctator at gmail.com
Fri Jan 17 16:25:32 UTC 2014

He wasn't assuming bad faith; he was accurately describing the situation
without ascribing intent.
On Jan 16, 2014 7:36 AM, "Andrew Lih" <andrew.lih at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Todd Allen <toddmallen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > There aren't two principles in conflict here.
> >
> > This proposal asks to move to a "free as in beer" model, where content
> will
> > be free to view, but not necessarily to reuse (and with the opaque
> license,
> > it may not even be possible to tell). We could choose to make that
> change,
> > but it is a major change to the founding principles of what we do.  As
> such
> > it should be discussed directly and across all projects as such a major
> > change, and not backdoored through a vote that is on its surface a
> question
> > about format support.
> As much as I hate how MPEG-LA and MPEG-4 creates a non-free climate for our
> video, it's unfair to use "backdoor" to characterize intent of either
> community members or WMF employees in this area.
> Video has been a big shortcoming in Wikipedia and in the FLOSS community in
> general. Overcoming means we need to consider the unique nature of the
> problem with some possible new solutions. That's not backdooring -- that's
> directly addressing the needs of content creation given the current legal
> and IP situation.
> Let's debate the merits of the case and not assume bad faith of the folks
> putting it forward.
> -Andrew
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