[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 118, Issue 2

Mon Jan 6 19:44:42 UTC 2014

Hi pine, I'd probably state it open that we desire it, maybe by using a
banner for a short period if time every year. just like we state if every
reader of the fundraising notice would give a small sum then fundraising
would be over in a couple of hours. With it we would have then three
banners a year, one fundraising, one contributor searching, and one for a
competition like wlm. A fourth one would be nice as well, a call for new
software development.

Rupert
Am 04.01.2014 07:23 schrieb "ENWP Pine" <deyntestiss at hotmail.com>:

> Hi Rupert,
>
> I agree that individual outreach can be effective. How do you suggest that
> we get a substantial number of our existing editors to feel motivated to
> recruit new editors?
>
> I think our problems with editor retention are widespread enough that they
> need to be addressed on a meta scale, even if that is "simply" to find
> effective ways of motivating existing users to assume good faith, be civil,
> and invite new people to edit on an individual basis.
>
> Pine
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 12:14:45 +0100
> > From: rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner at gmail.com>
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] New year's plans for editor engagement
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> >
> > hi pine,
> >
> > as a volunteer, my personal stance is that editor engagement is best
> > experienced on a personal, pragmatic, and not-meta level. let me give an
> > example:
> >
> > when i met anasuya sengupta last year i was very impressed by her. such a
> > nice and welcoming person to talk to. such a bright person, making
> > intelligent suggestions to topics we have. she told us at wikimedia ch,
> > that we do not reach the volunteers very well - basically 50 times more
> > people edit wikipedia than the ones willing to engage in any form with an
> > organisation around the movement, like wikimedia.ch. besides that, she
> is
> > kind of the "dream wikimedian" who would be able to correct two of the
> most
> > prominent editor statistics: she is woman, she is from india. and she is
> > educated, she is organized, she is successful.
> >
> > after meeting, i did what i usually do, look on the contributions. to my
> > great surprise, anasuya seems not have any billable edits ("billable" is,
> > in my personal definition, an edit on a page where a donor would click
> and
> > give money, so no talk page, meta, etc.). she as well does not seem to
> > write open source software used by the movement. i cannot say if she
> really
> > does not edit - she just does it in a way that a regular volunteer like
> me
> > would not notice.
> >
> > funny enough, anasuya sits for one and a half years next to sue gardner
> in
> > the san francisco office of the wikimedia foundation. sue gardner
> supported
> > the editor engagement program, and the india program, she put efforts in
> > making wikipedia nicer for women. and wmf put hundred thousands of
> dollars
> > into efforts which basic target is to win anasuya as a contributor.
> >
> > happy new year as well!
> >
> > rupert.
> >
> > ps: if this mail is the cause to have one additional editor, its goal is
> > fullfilled ;) and if every volunteer convinces one person to become
> > wikimedia volunteer this year, you, pine, will write a different mail at
> > the beginning of 2015.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:32 AM, ENWP Pine <deyntestiss at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > We had a good 2013 year for readership statistics, fundraising, website
> > > reliability, and many other metrics.
> > >
> > > We are continuing to have challenges with our editor population
> declining.
> > > Statistics are at http://reportcard.wmflabs.org. WMF discussed some of
> > > the research around these issues a monthly metrics meeting.
> > >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/2013-07-11
> > > .
> > >
> > > We have thousands of new accounts registered each month. However we are
> > > still losing more active editors than we gain each month. To date WMF
> and
> > > the chapters haven't solved this problem although resources are being
> spent
> > > on it. Projects include Echo, VisualEditor, Snuggle, GettingStarted,
> and
> > > education outreach.
> > >
> > > Some discussion of these issues for English Wikipedia is happening at
> > >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Editor_Retention#Possible_paths.2C_after_some_thoughts
> > > .
> > >
> > > Also check out the book review that is being published in this week's
> > > Signpost
> > >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus/Sandbox/Notes#.C5.BBycie_Wirtualnych_Dzikich
> ,
> > > and the 2010 editor study results
> > >
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Editor_Survey_Report_-_April_2011.pdf
> > > .
> > >
> > > I hope there will be many and sustained conversations in 2014 about
> > > questions such as these:
> > >
> > > * What should WMF, Jimmy, chapters and affiliates, and the online
> > > communities do differently regarding editor retention in 2014 and
> beyond?
> > >
> > > * What non-technical initiatives should be done to improve editor
> > > recruiting and retention?
> > >
> > > * How can we make Wikipedia editing be as mainstream as playing mobile
> > > games? I would like to see WMF take leadership on this issue and make
> a big
> > > push in 2014-2015 to make mobile editing a popular activity.
> > >
> > > * Since negative feedback is a major reason that editors leave, should
> we
> > > review how we revert and warn editors, how we handle content disputes,
> and
> > > how we deal with editors who are uncivil or disruptive?
> > >
> > > * How can we be a community that is efficient while being civil and
> > > hospitable?
> > >
> > > In the next Annual Plan I hope that someone at WMF will be appointed
> as a
> > > point person for promoting all editor engagement initiatives and
> regularly
> > > initiate discussions such as this one.
> > >
> > > Closing thought:
> > >
> > > "Whatever the weather
> > > We must move
> > > together"
> > >
> > > from a Marshall Plan poster,
> > > https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/File:Marshall_Plan_poster.JPG, seen on
> the
> > > English WikiQuote main page on December 31, 2013.
> > >
> > > Happy new year,
> > >
> > > Pine
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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