[Wikimedia-l] Office hours for VisualEditor

Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoekstra at gmail.com
Thu Oct 31 07:56:53 UTC 2013


On Oct 31, 2013 2:11 AM, "Steve Zhang" <cro0016 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have to say, I'm amazed such a long discussion has occured over a
> question about the time for an office hours sessions.

I'm amazed nobody has brought up leap seconds yet, which make 23:59:59 roll
over to 23:59:60 and would steal not one but two whole seconds in Tims
example.

>
> *Steven Zhang*
> *cro0016 at gmail.com*
>
>
> On 31 October 2013 09:42, Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > On 31/10/13 02:51, Newyorkbrad wrote:
> > > In an arbitration committee election a couple of years ago, I
definitely
> > > recall confusion about whether a deadline of 0000 on a given date
meant
> > > that the deadline expired as of the beginning of that date or the end
of
> > > that date.
> >
> > Voting periods in SecurePoll are actually half-open intervals [S, E),
> > i.e. "starting at exactly time S, proceeding up to but not including
> > time E". So "E = 2013-11-03 00:00:00" is actually the correct way to
> > express a voting interval that includes the whole of 2013-11-02 and
> > nothing after that. However, I have been browbeaten into using
> > 23:59:59 in more recent elections, thus stealing a whole second of
> > potential voting time from our poor voters.
> >
> > -- Tim Starling
> >
> >
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