[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] How to force to enable Visual Editor

[Craig Franklin]

Hear hear.

I know this is a battle that the Foundation's engineers can't possibly win,
given the circumstances which VE was moved from opt-out to opt-in on enwiki
(see
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&diff=prev&oldid=574251354,
for those who aren't aware).  Turn it on, turn it off; either way someone
gets upset.

>From a pure technical standpoint, is it possible to put a checkbox on the
new user page or something so that new users can turn it on without having
to delve deep into the untamed wilderness that is the user preferences page?

Cheers,
Craig


On 15 October 2013 21:54, Richard Nevell <richard.nevell at wikimedia.org.uk>wrote:

> I firmly agree with that, taking a detour to preferences when training new
> editors isn't my preferred method.
>
> Richard
>
>
> On 15 October 2013 12:47, Ziko van Dijk <vandijk at wmnederland.nl> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I think that for beginners things must be as simple and clear as
> > possible. Make them manipulate the preferences at the beginning of the
> > session is already complicated and a waste of time. Don't forget that
> > beginners already have to learn so many things quickly, so the more
> > you can reduce, the better.
> > Actually I'd prefer to have a model wiki that looks like Wikipedia but
> > is best suited to use in trainings.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Ziko
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > 2013/10/15 Charles Andrès <charles.andres.wmch at gmail.com>:
> > > Thanks, but in FR.Wikipedia.org you only have the opt-out option
> > (disable visual editor) :-(
> > >
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >
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> > > Le 15 oct. 2013 à 10:10, Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo459 at gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> > >
> > >> Hello Charles,
> > >>
> > >> I don't think there is a way to for this in the registration process.
> > >>
> > >> To enable or disable Visual Editor. Login
> > >>
> > >> 1. Go to ---> Preferences --> Click Editing tab.
> > >> 2. At the bottom of Editing page, Check or uncheck the box beside
> > Enable VisualEditor (only in the main and user namespaces)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> OR
> > >>
> > >> Follow this link
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing
> > >> Then repeat step 2 above.
> > >>
> > >> Hope it helps.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Enock S. Nyamador.
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> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Charles Andres <
> > charles.andres.wmch at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Dear all,
> > >>
> > >> In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we
> > have the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual
> editor
> > activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.
> > >>
> > >> Is there a trick to force the activation of Visual Editor for a
> > specific user?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> Charles
> > >>
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