[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and Internet2

[Leslie Carr]

FYI  -

Also while I would see a benefit in peering, I would probably use the
transit or partial transit bgp group, since this is being like a
transit network, and I wouldn't want to overrule our better paths to
their downstream AS'es


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From: Leslie Carr <lcarr at wikimedia.org>
Date: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and Internet2
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>


As the network person, I don't really see any benefit in joining
internet2, though I would see a benefit in possibly peering with them
at Equinix Ashburn, since according to their looking glass they have a
more direct connection to several AS'es than we do.


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Jasper Deng <jasper at jasperswebsite.com> wrote:
> Sneakernets are not particularly convenient. If the organizations of the
> net wanted to use that for data transfer, the net wouldn't exist.
>
> But I still think Wikimedia could increase/streamline accessibility to its
> information. It probably couldn't happen, but they have more than enough
> capacity to serve our content alone from eqiad (replacing or augmenting our
> existing links). Wikimedia also develops new ways to reach more people
> (such as MediaWiki mobile) like many of the organizations.

Internet2 is not set up as a true transit network, so this would not work.

>
> Another information organization that's participating is JSTOR, which I
> think is comparable to our projects as a source of information, so I think
> we can benefit from it.
>
> I'd respectfully disagree, as a Wikidata editor, that Commons is the only
> large database, because it may be large in terms of file size, but Wikidata
> has more tangible "hard" machine-readable data, with much more to come.
>

But from a network perspective, wikidata is a small database since it
is text... and the only benefit of joining internet2 is the network
connection.


>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 4:41 PM, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12 October 2013 21:41, Jasper Deng <jasper at jasperswebsite.com> wrote:
>>
>> > We could change that. Suppose a university wants to request the entire
>> > knowledgebase of Wikidata or another project, or if we need to do a mass
>> > transfer of data from them.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Still not significant.  The only really large database we have is the
>> commons image database and a sneaker net might be the most practical option
>> there.
>>
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>> geni
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Leslie Carr
Wikimedia Foundation
AS 14907, 43821
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-- 
Leslie Carr
Wikimedia Foundation
AS 14907, 43821
http://as14907.peeringdb.com/