[Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

[David Goodman]

right; wrong thread.

But yes,beta is good,as with the virtual editor.


On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:56 AM, David Goodman <dggenwp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Basically, you (in the plural)  thought you could do better than the
> > consensus, and therefore simply without rejecting it , did not implement
> it
> > while you tried other things first.   All these trials would have been
> > good, ''had they been done before implementation.'' I am waiting for
> > someone from the foundation to come out and agree to that, a recognition
> > that the error was that they needed to be done first.
>
> Hi David,
>
> I'm a little bit lost as to what you're referring to here, is this
> about the decision to not reinstate the orange notifications bar after
> the Echo rollout? If so, I already clarified [1] that I felt that we
> didn't do a good job recognizing the likely impact of this change
> earlier and addressing it more systematically upfront. We've since
> implemented a compromise, and work is continuing to iterate on this
> and other aspects of the new notifications system.
>
> In general, for features rollouts (and if we want to talk more about
> this, we should really split the thread), my recommendation is to
> adopt a beta->production mode switch similar to the mobile site, which
> will give us a generalized way to test new features with users who are
> willing to do so, while not committing us to provide an opt-out
> preference or mode switch for every new feature (which, while an easy
> way to appease upset users, is also a recipe for technical debt). Had
> Echo been available in beta on en.wp for a while before being
> activated, I think the rollout could have been a lot smoother.
>
> All best,
> Erik
>
> [1]
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Notifications&diff=prev&oldid=553547662
>
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> Erik Möller
> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
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