[Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

[Craig Franklin]

Thanks for clarifying this Phillippe.

I must say that I think this discussion is becoming unpleasantly personal
(and my initial email on the topic probably didn't help there, I concede).
 How about we stop pointing fingers at each other and conduct an honest and
transparent appraisal of what has happened with a view to learning lessons
from it so that it doesn't happen again.  I also have to point out that
while it's not ideal at all that this happened late on a Friday afternoon
when everyone was leaving the office, nor is it reasonable to expect paid
staff to snap to and respond on the weekends during their personal time.
 The damage has been done now, and it's not so urgent an issue that it
can't wait until Monday for a response.

Cheers,
Craig


On 13 May 2013 06:23, Philippe Beaudette <pbeaudette at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> That is correct. Because despite your attempts to turn me into the
> decision making authority here, I wasn't. You don't need to talk to
> the worker bee who executed, you want to talk to the person who made
> the decision. That's not me. And she is traveling.
>
> And also, you know, I'm working brutal hours right now and yeah, I
> wanted to try to not be posting this weekend. I had to deal with my
> mistake in not removing Phoebes rights at the same time and I had to
> deal with an elections thing. But was I anxious to come wading into a
> situation where - despite you clearly being told that I wasn't a
> decision maker - you continue to (for whatever reason) advance the
> asinine position that someone must be pulling gayles strings and
> therefore it must be me because I am evil?  No, you know, MZ, I didn't
> come skipping gleefully to that conversation.
>
> Let me be clear: I respect the work that you do. But I have zero time
> for your distortions of the situation when you've been told that it
> wasn't my decision.
>
> You want an explanation?  I'm sure that Gayle will offer one. But for
> the umpteenth time, I was the person pushing the button because
> someone had to be. So lets leave my motivations out of this okay?  I'm
> spending hundreds of hours per month fighting to support the volunteer
> community here and your assignations to the contrary are insulting.
>
> PB
>
> —————————
> Philippe Beaudette
> Director, Community Advocacy
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc
>
>
>
> On May 12, 2013, at 10:06 AM, MZMcBride <z at mzmcbride.com> wrote:
>
> > Philippe has had time to go back and remove Phoebe's user rights and
> > Philippe has had time to post to this mailing list about the upcoming
> > Wikimedia elections, but he has chosen not to participate in this thread
> > at all about his actions.
>