[Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

Russavia russavia.wikipedia at gmail.com
Sat May 11 12:17:23 UTC 2013

Apologies, I mean Gayle, not Karen.


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Russavia <russavia.wikipedia at gmail.com> wrote:
> Having an HR & IR background myself, I am most surprised that the
> person for managing TALENT and CULTURE would take such a move without
> even so much as consulting with the community who keep the WMF's
> presence on the internet working, nor without giving them an actual
> reason as to why this has occurred.
> I can only encourage Karen to either 1) explain why this was an
> absolutely necessary step to make, or 2) reverse those actions.
> Russavia
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Craig Franklin
> <cfranklin at halonetwork.net> wrote:
>> This sort of tone might be appropriate coming from HR in a bank or
>> something, but I'm tremendously disappointed that something so tactless and
>> rude was sent out from a senior officer in the Foundation to its
>> volunteers.  I know Gayle is a new hire, so I'm assuming good faith that
>> she wasn't aware that taking this sort of attitude with volunteers would go
>> down like a lead balloon.
>> Someone at the WMF needs to take Gayle into an office and patiently explain
>> to her that the volunteers whose access she just "disabled, effective
>> immediately" are the same ones that keep the websites that per her salary
>> going.
>> Cheers,
>> Craig Franklin
>> On 11 May 2013 21:15, K. Peachey <p858snake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This is the email that got sent out to everyone,
>>> ---
>>> Dear XXX,
>>> Thank you for your work with the Foundation wiki.  At this time, we
>>> are formalizing a new requirement, which is that administrator access
>>> is given only to staff and board.  I am having administrator access to
>>> accounts that are neither staff or board be disabled, effective
>>> immediately.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Gayle
>>> --
>>> Gayle Karen K. Young
>>> Chief Talent and Culture Officer
>>> Wikimedia Foundation
>>> 415.310.8416
>>> www.wikimediafoundation.org
>>> ---
>>> Gayle's response (which was the first time she has edited the wiki in
>>> ~5 months[2]) seems lacking[1] in general and the subsequent responses
>>> about knowing what these people do on the wiki
>>> Another interesting fact is that Mz got desysoped first, When you
>>> would expect it to be done in alphabetically order.
>>> "We've been discussing this for awhile, and the thought is that it's
>>> ultimately the Foundation's web presence, not the community's web
>>> presence. A useful parallel to consider might be how userrights are
>>> given to staffers on the community wikis; they're distributed as and
>>> when they're needed for a specific task."
>>> Um, Rights for staff on wikis are given out like candy?, although not
>>> as much thee days but it still happens.
>>> Also, How is the foundation wiki not apart of the community? Has the
>>> position of the legal department changed? or the boards? just randomly
>>> changing without any imput or discussions seems utlimately strange.
>>> since it is actually their wiki (just like everything else that falls
>>> under the foundation)
>>> [1]. <
>>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?diff=91857&oldid=91855#Users_stripped_of_rights.3F
>>> >
>>> [2]. <
>>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=Gyoung
>>> >
>>> [3]. <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:Log/rights>
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