[Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering

Christophe Henner christophe.henner at gmail.com
Thu Mar 7 16:07:50 UTC 2013


On 7 March 2013 17:02, Balázs Viczián <balazs.viczian at wikimedia.hu> wrote:
> I really don't get you, you wish to facilitate something that will affect
> about 20 chapters directly in the future (those situated within the EU) and
> you don't think it would overlap the Milan event? And no real need to talk
> about it there?
>
> Balazs
>
>

Sorry, english is not my mother tongue, I might have not been clear :)

I'll try to say it differently.

To me the Brussels meeting is a technical meeting, meaning you need to
have participant that have, somewhat, some knowledge of EU policy
design, lobbying, etc. The goal of the meeting is to draft out how we
could work toward, at least, stay aware of the on-going discussion
that could impact our mission and at best influence it.

The participants of this meeting are not always board members of their
chapters, hence they wouldn't be present in Milan. This is why I say,
participant wise, the overlapping is not really obvious.

But, as I said, it is really good that the Brussels meeting happens
*before* Milan, that way chapter representatives will be able to talk
about it if they want to.

I topped that with the fact that a "technical" meeting about EU policy
needs a lot of time, more than lunch, to draft out how we could do it.
If you add a 2 days meeting before Milan, it means that some people
will have to take the whole week off instead of just 1 or 2 days.

I'm sorry if you misunderstood what I meant, and I hope that email is clearer :)

Best,

--
Christophe


> 2013/3/7 Christophe Henner <christophe.henner at gmail.com>
>>
>> I agree with my dutch friend :)
>>
>> People going to the Wikimedia Conference are not especially overlapping
>> with this one. Plus taking one day or two off is quite easy. Add a side
>> meeting you need to take a week off.
>>
>> Lastly, having it 2 weeks before let's us formalize the report of the
>> meeting and let's have us good material to talk about it, if needs be, in
>> Milan.
>>
>> Christophe
>> Envoye depuis mon Blackberry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>
>> Sender: wikimedia-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
>> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 16:42:32
>> To: Wikimedia Mailing List<wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Big Fat Brussels Gathering
>>
>> Hi Balázs,
>>
>> There seems to be only limited overlap in the interested attendees. Also,
>> preconference would overlap with some other pre conferencees which at
>> least
>> for me would be bad. Also, there's only one day of pre conference
>> (Thursday) which makes it too short and in the middle of the week (there's
>> a clear preference for weekends).
>>
>> All in all, I support the decision to do it in a seperate weekend in
>> Brussels.
>>
>> However, what is unclear to me (question to the organizers) is whether any
>> travel support etc would be available, or that it should be requested
>> through the local chapter. Also, can we already sign up somewhere?
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> 2013/3/7 Balázs Viczián <balazs.viczian at wikimedia.hu>
>>
>> > Hi Jan,
>> >
>> > Typically this is what pre conference events are for and quite frankly I
>> > see more possibilities in it if this would be implemented into the Milan
>> > event both in the schedule and as a thematic pre conference meeting (as
>> > the
>> > educational leaders are doing it).
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> > Balázs
>> >
>> > 2013/3/6 Jan Engelmann <jan.engelmann at wikimedia.de>
>> >
>> > > Hi Balázs,
>> > >
>> > > of course I am aware of the chapter conference. But first, there will
>> > > be
>> > no
>> > > volunteers. Second, there won't be enough time. Third, we want to
>> > integrate
>> > > a short input from a Brussels-based NGO to learn something about
>> > > "things
>> > > really work". And apart from that, we searched for a very really
>> > > central
>> > > city in Europe, which is in fact - Brussels.
>> > >
>> > > Best, Jan
>> > >
>> > > 2013/3/6 Balázs Viczián <balazs.viczian at wikimedia.hu>
>> > >
>> > > > Errr...the chapters conference in Milan will be two weeks later, why
>> > > don't
>> > > > you integrate this into the schedule of that instead?
>> > > >
>> > > > Balazs
>> > > >
>> > > > 2013/3/6 Jan Engelmann <jan.engelmann at wikimedia.de>
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi all,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > a clear majority voted for the 6th/7th of april as the most
>> > > > > suitable
>> > > > > date for the meeting. We are happy to make the arrangements!
>> > > > > During
>> > > > > the next days, we will provide you with all necessary information
>> > > > > about the location in Brussels and the scheduling. We will also
>> > > > > pass
>> > > > > around a draft agenda on Meta to make sure that everybody can add
>> > > > > certain points of interest or comments in advance.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Please spread the Doodle-link just to make sure that even more
>> > > > > people
>> > > > > who are interested in the EU policy stuff will follow:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://doodle.com/ntiz6gup7z49e7p5
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best wishes,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jan
>> > > > >
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