[Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Tue Jun 18 04:37:59 UTC 2013

Hi Anders, you wrote:

 > And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually
 > helps recruting and keeping editors

Do you have any prove for that or is this just a speculation or your 
personal wishes? Does this mean that the Swedish community precisely 
because this botwork has - against the general trend - no loss of authors?

I know very well what it means to attract new authors and to retain 
them. But I also know that it is not because of automated welcome bots, 
but mostly with personal contact.

By this logic, any other Wikipedias, which even have a higher proportion 
of automated generated articles will get even more new authors.

If this is all true, I would change my mind immediately!

hu

Am 17.06.2013 12:43, schrieb Anders Wennersten:
> In the beginning there were a mass of article created manually that was
> substandard and which today would not be accepted as proper articles
>
> A little later (several year ago now) a mass of articles were
> botgenerated that were substandard and could not be seen as proper
> wp:articles
>
> We have since long learned how to write good articles created by our
> editors.
>
> We are just now, on a few wikiepdiaverisons, learning how to create good
> articles by bots, that give both facts, content, context and knowledge
> (also using the new new valuable tool Wikidata  which is a good
> component but not all that is needed)
>
> I am proud to be active in one of these versions mastering this new
> intellectual challenge, of huge value in providing free knowledge for all.
>
> And as shown earlier we have learned that this actually helps recruting
> and keeping editors
>
> Anders
>
>
> Hubertl skrev 2013-06-17 12:09:
>> Payin´ peanuts, gettin´ monkeys
>>
>> Servin´ facts, gettin´ idiots.
>>
>> An unmanageable, not maintainable mass of articles is the best way to
>> breed idiots. Because facts do not create knowledge.
>>
>> If that is our goal, then automatically created Wikipedias ar the best
>> way to solve one of our biggest problems, namely the permanent loss of
>> authors.
>>
>> Maybe it is completely sufficient if you know that somewhere facts are
>> stored in a most possible stupid form.
>>
>> I started more than fifty years ago learning about facts, facts
>> without understanding. But nine years ago I startet to learn something
>> about knowledge, understanding and correlations.
>>
>> Why do not you need people like me? If we have bots now?
>>
>> Do we want to make ourselves more important with impressive numbers?
>>
>> Hubertl!
>>
>> The german language Wikipedia has no single article that was generated
>> by a bot. I'm proud of it. If this would take place in de:WP, many
>> people will leave this project. With certainty.
>>
>> Anyway, that does not matter, a bot is probably much better for monkeys!
>>
>> Am 16.06.2013 14:51, schrieb Nurunnaby Chowdhury:
>>> Congratulations swedish wikipedians!!!!
>>>
>>> *Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive*
>>> Bangladesh Ambassador | Open Knowledge Network Foundation
>>> (OKFN)<http://www.okfn.org>
>>> Auto-confirmed, Reviewer & Roll backer Editor | Bangla
>>> Wikipedia<http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:nhasive>
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>>> (BdOSN)<http://www.bdosn.org>
>>> Coordinator (PR) | Society for the Popularization of Science, Bangladesh
>>> (SPSB) <http://www.spsb.org>*
>>> *Central Team MOVers | Bangladesh Mathematical Olympiad Committee
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> grattis mina kompisar!
>>>> *Jag känner en bott, hon heter Lsjbot, Lsjbot heter hon...*
>>>>
>>>> It looks like Polish will be the next to hit the symbolic number:
>>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#100_000.2B_articles
>>>>
>>>> wittylama.com
>>>> Peace, love & metadata
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16 June 2013 22:39, Tonmoy Khan <tonmoy.du at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tonmoy
>>>>> On Jun 16, 2013 6:30 PM, "Patricio Lorente"
>>>>> <patricio.lorente at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Congratulations to the swedish wikipedians!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/6/16 Anders Wennersten <mail at anderswennersten.se>:
>>>>>>> Yesterday sv:wp reached 1 M articles. The one who did the passing
>>>> was a
>>>>>> bot
>>>>>>> generated article of a butterfly
>>>>>>> http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erysichton_elaborata.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The bot behind this article is Lsjbot who creates articles from the
>>>>>> database
>>>>>>> Catalogue of Life
>>>>>>> http://www.catalogueoflife.org/services/res/2011AC_26July.zip which
>>>>>>> (complemented by other databases) which holds data of around 1.5
>>>>> million
>>>>>>> species. The bot genrates about 5000 new articles per day and has
>>>>>> generated
>>>>>>> just under 400 000 of the sv:wps million and continues...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The guy who runs he bot is a member of the Swedish chapters board
>>>>>>> http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kandidater_2013/Sverker_Johansson and
>>>> is
>>>>>> in his
>>>>>>> civil life a University teacher. In this capacity he is also a guest
>>>>>>> lecturer at the university of the Phillipines where he stayed the
>>>> last
>>>>>>> couple of months (and the bot was on hold). He is there active in
>>>>>>> Cebuano-Wikipedia http://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unang_Panid and
>>>>>> supporting
>>>>>>> their local community, and he is now running his bot on their
>>>> wikipedia
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> well as on the Warai-Warai Wikipedia
>>>>>>> http://war.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syahan_nga_Pakli. So perhaps at the
>>>> end
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> year these two language versions will also pass the 1 million mark!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anders
>>>>>>> PS out other major botgenerating effort of all lakes in Sweden is
>>>> also
>>>>>>> making very nice progress, done 25% of all DS
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
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