[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots)

[Martin Rulsch]

As far as I know, that's even planned by the Wikidata team.

Cheers
Martin


2013/6/18 Ziko van Dijk <vandijk at wmnederland.nl>

> Hello,
> I am also unhappy with the mail from Hubertl, and also some remarks that
> good be understood as a criticism of the German Wikipedia editing
> community. Actually, both opinions coexist also in de.WP, although the anti
> bot faction is obviously stronger.
> My concern is that bot articles usually stay the same and don't grow much.
> They give a bad impression about a Wikipedia language version, and there is
> no one to update them. Maybe it would be better to support WikiData and
> later find a solution with WikiData to provide data to small or large
> Wikipedia language versions.
> Kind regards
> Ziko
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> 2013/6/17 Per A.J. Andersson <paja at telia.com>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Sad for seeing you so disappointed. Good to see you have insight in
> > butterflies. So I hope you will make your knowledge visible on dewp,
> where
> > neither genera so far have found its way into articles. enwp (together
> with
> > viwp!) has at least the genus "Jameela" as an article.
> >
> > That aside, is it really a disaster that svwp relies on scientific texts
> > that was unquestioned until three years ago? I think maybe there are more
> > pressing concerns in the development of our wikipedias.
> >
> > Best of wishes,
> > /Per
> > Paracel63 at svwp
> >
> > 2013-06-17, 22:29, skrev Kurt Kulac:
> >
> >
> >  i don´t want to repeat all those arguments already quoted (lennard
> >> already mentioned achim raschkas criticism, which i fully agree with),
> >> since what happend, already happend, and will unstoppably happen in the
> >> future.  but i would say first of all the strategic goal is not to
> >> contribute hundreds of mistakes a day. just to take the 1 millionth
> >> article Erysichton elaborata: after an advice on the talk page a HUMAN
> >> added, that the species is probably synonymized with Erysichton palmyra.
> >> so far, so good. but even this correction is not enough. in 2010 the
> >> genus erysichton was redefined and a new genus, jameela was described.
> >> both taxa now desrcibed as in sv.wikipedia are invalid.
> >>
> >> so just concerning this tiny tiny group of articles, there is already a
> >> bunch of mistakes, the bot copied out of outdated databases. wouldn´t be
> >> a big deal, if somebody mentioned that the articles sticked to the old
> >> view. but that´s something a bot can´t handle. so how reliable is the
> >> rest of the articles?
> >>
> >> a bot can be a convenient helper for authors, who know, how to handle
> >> it, as it seems has happened with the creation of the articles about
> >> swedish lakes (i´m no expert with that though). but it is a desastrous
> >> tool for our whole movement, if you create hundreds of thousands (!)
> >> articles, without the slightest idea, how to handle the contradictions,
> >> that will appear doubtlessly?
> >>
> >> it´s a sad thing, that you mention quality and this action in one
> >> centence...
> >>
> >> truly utterly disappointed encyclopedic greetings,
> >> kurt
> >>
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