[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Fwd: Re: Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with supportof bots)
Kurt Kulac
kulac-ml at wikimedia.at
Mon Jun 17 20:29:38 UTC 2013
Am 17.06.2013 16:01, schrieb Jan Ainali:
> 2013/6/17 Ilario Valdelli <valdelli at gmail.com>
>
>> One of the strategic goal of the plan of wikimedia movement is the quality.
>>
> That is true. However, the strategic plan does not go into detail on how to
> measure it. Is it an article that only has claims backed by sources? If so,
> the bot-generated articles are very high-quality. Is it a featured article?
> Then I guess that reaching the goal of 25% will be pretty tough.
>
> Actually, the most reasonable way to reach that goal, having 12,5 million
> quality articles in two years, is to use some sort of automation.
>
> /Jan Ainali
i don´t want to repeat all those arguments already quoted (lennard
already mentioned achim raschkas criticism, which i fully agree with),
since what happend, already happend, and will unstoppably happen in the
future. but i would say first of all the strategic goal is not to
contribute hundreds of mistakes a day. just to take the 1 millionth
article Erysichton elaborata: after an advice on the talk page a HUMAN
added, that the species is probably synonymized with Erysichton palmyra.
so far, so good. but even this correction is not enough. in 2010 the
genus erysichton was redefined and a new genus, jameela was described.
both taxa now desrcibed as in sv.wikipedia are invalid.
so just concerning this tiny tiny group of articles, there is already a
bunch of mistakes, the bot copied out of outdated databases. wouldn´t be
a big deal, if somebody mentioned that the articles sticked to the old
view. but that´s something a bot can´t handle. so how reliable is the
rest of the articles?
a bot can be a convenient helper for authors, who know, how to handle
it, as it seems has happened with the creation of the articles about
swedish lakes (i´m no expert with that though). but it is a desastrous
tool for our whole movement, if you create hundreds of thousands (!)
articles, without the slightest idea, how to handle the contradictions,
that will appear doubtlessly?
it´s a sad thing, that you mention quality and this action in one
centence...
truly utterly disappointed encyclopedic greetings,
kurt
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