[Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support of bots)

Ilario Valdelli valdelli at gmail.com
Mon Jun 17 14:12:42 UTC 2013


The use of wikidata instead of a bot is a good practice to provude good
contant to all wikipedias because larger communities can control and fix
errors instead of providing content by a bot and keep it outdated.
Il giorno 17/giu/2013 15:53, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Hoi,
>
> Please consider .... there are over 280 Wikipedias in as many languages. In
> many languages we have few articles. Providing information is our mission.
> We aim to provide well written articles. The argument is that we do not
> succeed at that. Actually it is not an argument, it is a fact. When the
> Germans feel they do not need bot generated articles, more power to them,
> when they assume that their example is to be copied I truly wonder if they
> understand the lack of resources in so many languages.
>
> It is fairly easy to find articles that are considered relevant to a
> sizable group of the German populace that are missing.. I am working
> towards providing this information by using Wikidata. The best part (for
> the Germans) is that I urge them to make sure that these articles exist and
> are well written .. in German.
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
> PS I blogged about how this can be done several times in the past
>
>
> On 17 June 2013 15:43, Dimce Grozdanoski <dimce.grozdanoski at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On 17.06.2013 12:36, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
> >
> >> On 16/06/13 15:24, Johan Jönsson wrote:
> >>
> >>> 2013/6/16 Ilario Valdelli <valdelli at gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>> I think that Anders is saying that the result of Wikimedia Swedish is
> >>>> due
> >>>> to a work of bots and to a work of people.
> >>>>
> >>>> It means that this result is contrary to the WMF strategy which would
> >>>> have
> >>>> more people and more contributors.
> >>>>
> >>>> The next millions of articles will be reached by Polish Wikipedia but
> >>>> also
> >>>> by cebuan Wikipedia and by Warai-Warai Wikipedia.
> >>>>
> >>>> May be it's the time to have only bots to write in Wikipedia? I hope
> >>>> that
> >>>> in future the number of articles will be counted considering at least
> a
> >>>> small content ad not only a template in a page, because the use like
> >>>> this
> >>>> will discourage the communities of editors.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I would say our experience is that it doesn't affect the number of
> human
> >>> editors at all in any way. A couple of people run bots that create very
> >>> short articles about taxons or other stuff that, to be honest, probably
> >>> wouldn't have been created otherwise. These articles have very few
> >>> readers.
> >>> Why on Earth would this discourage us?
> >>>
> >>> Our main problem is that browsing Swedish Wikipedia using the "random
> >>> article" button isn't as fun as it used to be. That's probably fixable.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I am again using the opportunity to remind that all of this will soon be
> >> completely unnecessary since it should be possible to generate the
> articles
> >> on the fly from Wikidata data.
> >>
> >>  you mean to generate on the fly only articles of this kind, not any
> > article.
> >
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