[Wikimedia-l] PRISM

Florence Devouard anthere9 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 10 09:56:26 UTC 2013


Precisely, they could ask to have "CU" accounts...

Flo

On 6/10/13 4:53 AM, Benoit Landry wrote:
> What "information" could the WMF disclose that isn't already available
> to some volunteers anyhow? The IP addresses of logged-in editors are
> visible to volunteer CUs; deleted revisions and log entries are visible
> to all volunteers admins. Wikipedia's inherently a pretty transparent
> system...
>
> ~~~~,
> Salvidrim!
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Anthony
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 10:37 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] PRISM
>
> There is plenty of reason to think the government would be interested in
> Wikipedia access logs.
>
> On the other hand, there's very little reason to believe an organization
> when they say they haven't been turning over information under a top secret
> order which they're not allowed to tell anyone about.
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Nathan <nawrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think an official statement would be unnecessary and ill advised. It
>> doesn't affect Wikimedia projects, there is no reason to think it
>> does, and involving itself would be a mistake the WMF can and should
>> avoid.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Christophe Henner
>> <christophe.henner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > My understanding is that PRISM focused on private electronic
>> > communication. I can't see a situation where we would be concerned by
>> > that.
>> >
>> > But some official statement could help put at ease people worries :)
>> > --
>> > Christophe
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10 June 2013 03:34, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:
>> >> All edits and other actions are archived, but I would think there
>> would
>> >> be zero interest or utility to NSA. I would simply ignore the matter.
>> >>
>> >> Fred
>> >>
>> >>> This is a simple question with a potentially very complicated
>> answer.....
>> >>>
>> >>> What, if any, are the implications of the PRISM scandal for
>> Wikimedia?
>> >>> Does the fact that our servers are based in the US now compromise our
>> >>> mission either in a technical, privacy or an ethical sense?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> - Liam / Wittylama
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> wittylama.com
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