[Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talkaboutVisualEditor

[Peter Southwood]

That should help, Any idea of when we can expect the change?
Cheers,
Peter

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Moeller" <erik at wikimedia.org>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and 
talkaboutVisualEditor


> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Peter Southwood
> <peter.southwood at telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> You could start by making the edit links permanently visible and clearly
>> labeled.
>
> Yeah, I've already requested this, since it seems like an easy win.
> The mouseover behavior is really not a good solution - it was an
> attempt to find a compromise between ensuring continued availability
> of wikitext editing for sections while reducing clutter, but it
> doesn't really serve that purpose well. It makes wikitext editing
> secondary, which is unreasonable, adds screen flicker, and doesn't
> translate to touch devices. We've been procrastinating for too long
> finding the perfect solution for this problem, when really we'll
> probably just need to take a marginal clutter hit right now. We'll fix
> it.
>
> -- 
> Erik Möller
> VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation
>
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