[Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

[Martijn Hoekstra]

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood at telkomsa.net> wrote:

> Beside being  way more effort than it is worth, what is particularly
> Lovecraftian about that?
> Cheers,
> Peter
>

What's bad about it, is that the meaning of the transcluded content changes
radically on the context into which it is transcluded.

What's Lovecraftian about it is that it changes the syntactical meaning of
elements on the page that it is transcluded in to, without even having to
be near it.

--Martijn


A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?




> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martijn Hoekstra" <
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>  On Jul 30, 2013 3:49 AM, "Marc A. Pelletier" <marc at uberbox.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 07/29/2013 07:00 PM, David Gerard wrote:
>>> > Are there any wikitext constructions that are actually going to be
>>> > deprecated?
>>>
>>> I'm not privy to the architecture decisions, but I'm pretty sure that
>>> the absolute worst monstrosity is the possibility of opening markup in a
>>> (possibly deeply recursive or, worse, conditional) template that is
>>> closed in a different template
>>>
>>
>> I can dream up horrors you can't even imagine. Consider a template
>> consisting if two single quotes. For a demonstration, see
>> http://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/**User:Martijn_Hoekstra/**
>> Lovecraftian_horror2<http://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Martijn_Hoekstra/Lovecraftian_horror2>
>>
>> Getting it rid of /just/ that would
>>
>>> lose us no content (though it would break some frankenstein-grade
>>> markup) and gain us a couple orders of magnitude in parsoid reliability
>>> and simplicity.
>>>
>>> And probably would make most of the VE team cry in relief.
>>>
>>> -- Marc
>>>
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