[Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

Bence Damokos bdamokos at gmail.com
Mon Jul 29 00:43:09 UTC 2013


Can somebody summarize the concerns raised in that RfC?

Best regards,
Bence


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski <tomasz at twkozlowski.net
> wrote:

> Hi,
> there is a famous quote on courage by Winston Churchill, a British Prime
> Minister, who once wisely said: "Courage is what it takes to stand up and
> speak. Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen."
>
> Over the weekend, more than 440 editors of the German Wikipedia took part
> in an RfC-like process ("Umfragen") at <https://de.wikipedia.org/**
> wiki/Wikipedia:Umfragen/**VisualEditor_Opt-in<https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Umfragen/VisualEditor_Opt-in>>
> and voted against the activation of the VisualEditor for anonymous users,
> asking the WMF to revert to an opt-in phase instead of the currently
> existing opt-out.
>
> This is yet another signal coming from the community that there is
> something very broken about the process in which VisualEditor is being
> rolled out. Most of the criticism has been ignored so far, but on the other
> hand, we haven't yet seen such an enormous community objection against the
> VisualEditor anywhere.
>
> Let us therefore use this opportunity, and have the courage to sit down
> and listen. Or, perhaps, in the wiki spirit, let's edit this quote, and let
> us sit down and talk.
>
> And, together, let's learn a lesson from this, and correct the errors so
> that they don't become mistakes.
>
>           Tomasz
>
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