[Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

[Robert Rohde]

At enwiki, we have similar results.  [1]  For example

"VisualEditor, as currently deployed, is a useful feature" ( 5
Support, 37 Oppose )

Even though most users believe VisualEditor is nonetheless a good idea

"VisualEditor is a good idea in theory" ( 54 Support, 5 Oppose, 5 Neutral )


Taken in context with the various comments in other forums (such as
WP:VE/F), the fact that 1300 enwiki users have enabled a gadget to
remove VE, and the early evidence that VE makes new users less likely
to edit [2][3], and I think one would also see a majority of enwiki
participants voting in favor of turning the thing off.  Somehow I
don't think the WMF would actually let enwiki go back to an opt-in
mode, but I do believe that a majority of the editors likely to
participate in such polls would support that at present.

Of course, this deployment is clearly being run in a top-down fashion
without much effort to determine whether the various communities
involved feel the software is ready.

-Robert Rohde

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VisualEditor/RFC
[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:VisualEditor%27s_effect_on_newly_registered_editors/Results
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback&oldid=565381622#Some_performance_notes

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I found the vote to be a poll here:
> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Opinielokaal#Tijdelijk_uitschakelen_visuele_tekstverwerker
> (some
> 50 people voted in favor of hiding the visual editor from all editors).
> Romaine seems (I only scanned it quickly) to have summarized the gist of
> the atmosphere correctly. To be totally clear: the poll is to make the
> visual editor *invisible*, with an opt-in for testing purposes. I am
> assuming this was to be achieved through either not rolling it out on
> nlwiki, or through js/css.
>
> I must say I find especially this email very unspecific with regards to
> what would exactly be the problems. The poll gives more specific examples
> (although I myself don't really agree this weighs against the advantages,
> clearly for many they are significant enough).
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
>
> 2013/7/22 Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com>
>
>> Hello Romaine,
>>
>> Speaking only for myself, I appreciate detailed feedback like this.
>> Could you link to the local votes and today's discussion?
>>
>> SJ
>>
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