[Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again

Fred Bauder fredbaud at fairpoint.net
Wed Jul 10 04:21:40 UTC 2013


> On 9 July 2013 23:46, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> > Well, not wanting to wade into that "pirates' little helpers"
>> snarkiness,
>> > but it takes 30 seconds from anywhere on the web to find a copyright
>> > violation. Maybe a bit longer if you have a slow connection.
>> >
>> > Risker
>>
>> True enough, but why are we one of the ways?
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
> I've not had that experience on English Wikipedia, although I've never
> tried it on other projects.  Now, I can easily take just about any link
> anywhere on the web and find a copyvio within 2-3 clicks, and I'm pretty
> sure that would be true for links on Wikipedia too.  I suppose we could
> always ban external links, but I think it would be counterproductive for
> our projects and mission, and it wouldn't solve anyone's copyright
> issues.
> But please don't conflate links directly from Wikipedia to copyright
> violations (which is, I believe, expressly forbidden on all of our
> projects) and being able to get to copyright violations from links in
> Wikipedia.  The only way to prevent the latter is to ban all external
> links.
>
> Risker
>

I guess I view sites which host entertainment, as opposed to material
which contains knowledge, as different. So music or a movie seems
different from a newspaper article or a passage from a book which, at
least in my mind, seems more like fair use, but not, of course, how fair
use is actually defined by the courts.

So The Searchers, which is not entirely void of information, however
distorted, seems very different from a copied newspaper article which
might also imagine Monument Valley was in Texas.

Fred





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