[Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

[Jussi-Ville Heiskanen]

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:03 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21 January 2013 01:23, Kim Bruning <kim at bruning.xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 09:53:46AM +0000, Richard Farmbrough wrote:
>
>>> number of years ago the oligarchy destroyed hope (Esperanza) - now the
>
>> Well,  Esperanza ended up ossified faster than the rest of wikipedia,
>> so it had to be taken down.
>
>
> Esperanza was killed because it became
> problematic.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Esperanza
>
> Perhaps bits of the idea may be useful, but it was a bad
> implementation and is generally not missed.

It's a bit late to try to ressurect something that never lived... I
don't think there is a way
back from admitting that WMF should stay out of running anything else
than the servers,
and fund (in a fit of honesty) every effort at making forking
feasible... otherwise there is
no hope for them...


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Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]