[Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

[Martijn Hoekstra]

On Jan 5, 2013 1:03 AM, "George Herbert" <george.herbert at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Martijn Hoekstra
> <martijnhoekstra at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 5, 2013 12:51 AM, "George Herbert" <george.herbert at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> > On 4 January 2013 17:56, Mark <delirium at hackish.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 1a. Do *not* pick a source that you have a particularly close
personal
> > or
> >> >> emotional connection to: it is not good to start with your own
> > research,
> >> >> your supervisor's or colleague's research, a project of yours or
that
> > you're
> >> >> involved with, a nationalist/political/religious subject you feel
> > strongly
> >> >> about, the history of your own family, etc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This can be a problem in that people will become interested first in
> >> > fixing something they think is wrong because they know about it. I do
> >> > realise all the steps from that to here, and that a list of
> >> > instructions pretty much won't be read.
> >>
> >> Along the lines of noneuclidian geometry...
> >>
> >> What if we experiment (at least conceptually) with inverting that
> >> instruction?  Encourage people to write on subjects they know...
> >>
> >> Normal people won't be so much of an expert that using their own
> >> professional or academic work as a reference is even applicable.
> >>
> >> Actual experts, we can include a "Please cite your sources, rather
> >> than your own work, thanks!" and leave it at that.
> >>
> >> Actual experts who fail to heed that are a problem, but a much smaller
> >> and easier to communicate with and explain problem than the no-newbies
> >> one.
> >> .
> >>
> >
> > Please resubmit this suggestion after three hours of AfC work
>
> You think I haven't done hours (days, weeks, at one point a month)
> worth of AfC work?
>
> I thought AfC was a great place to ramp up my WP skills when I was
> getting in sync.  Pick something I knew about but not enough to write
> an article, go research it, zap.
>
>
> --
> -george william herbert
> george.herbert at gmail.com
>

George, sorry about implying you didn't. Ill follow up with a smarter
response later.

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