[Wikimedia-l] Editor retention (was Re: "Big data" benefits and limitations (relevance: WMF editor engagement, fundraising, and HR practices))

Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoekstra at gmail.com
Fri Jan 4 13:36:37 UTC 2013

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:10 PM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4 January 2013 13:03, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:
> > With respect to welcoming and assisting new users on the English
> > Wikipedia where there is a bewildering volume of varied activity by new
> > and experienced users it might be helpful if we had a recent changes
> > options that showed only edit by new editors with less than say 100 edits
> > that could be monitored. Newbie helpers could then welcome, comment,
> > compliment, or otherwise assist the new user. Obviously access to such a
> > recent changes option by those looking for trouble could also be used in
> > ways that would discourage the new user. Perhaps access could be limited
> > to only flagged newbie helpers.
> How would we stop Twinkle/Huggle users from using such a feed as a
> shooting gallery?

By blocking the hell out of anyone who thinks that is a good idea. We as
editors are not idiots. The trench mentality which is understandable but
inexcusable has been condoned for too long. Anyone who - in good faith,
understandably by the mind-numbing idiocy poured out in our recent changes
by various forms of bad faith and incompetence - fucks up by scaring off
our good faith new editors that need help rather than templating (which is
not help in any recognisable form) needs to stop doing what they are doing.
If our vandalism fighters can't be held to those standards, they shouldn't
do it.

> - d.
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