[Wikimedia-l] Are chapters part of the community and board seats for affiliates?

[Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]

The chapters is part of the Movement, and the guys inside the chapter too.

*"a collection of organizations (Wikimedia Foundation, Wikimedia chapters
etc.), as well as individuals and similar-minded organizations."  *-
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Movement

Is very easy to understand, just replace Chapter by another NGO
partner,sometimes not
all people inside the NGO are imbued in helping the Wikimedia Movement,
however as the institution supports the Movement, it is part of the
Movement regardless
of who is in there.



On 24 February 2013 07:27, Balázs Viczián <balazs.viczian em wikimedia.hu>wrote:

> Maybe I wasn't clear enough, imo chapters are NOT part of the communities
> (nor the global community), just a tool for them to achieve certain goals
> that otherwise would be much more difficult or (almost) impossible to
> reach.
>
> Balázs
> 2013.02.24. 10:34, "Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton" <rodrigo.argenton em gmail.com>
> ezt írta:
>
> > Two things, one is, I do not know why these discussions are not held in a
> > Wiki
> > ( ie meta), which is easier to document and much easier to follow.
> >
> > The second point:
> >
> > I think the chapters are a significant part of the community, however, as
> > only
> > one part, the chapters can not, should not speak for the whole. Thus,
> > it is interesting
> > to have people with most varied visions, perhaps because chapter people
> is
> > not interesting some kind of group, but for others from the Movement,
> that
> > affiliation is What they need. More than that, if you only choose people
> of
> > the chapters, you will never have different visions, so you always
> forced,
> > in
> > a way, that group fits in your reality, or be like a "European" chapter.
> >
> >
> > observations
> >
> >
> >    - If there is doubt as what's the chapter role in the Movement, how
> can
> >    we know what is a chapter? Why is there so much energy lost in
> >    bureaucracies, rather than focusing on activities? Chapters are
> > made to perform
> >    activities? If yes, so why not prioritize the best local structures
> for
> >    this to occur? If not, why choose people from chapter to decide about
> >    other types of groups that only will do activities?
> >    - Why AffCom discussions are closed, since you are not the whole
> >    community? Why need to be so few people, and so obscure? Why not
> follow
> > the
> >    other current processes and make openings for communities?
> >    - If a chapter is something that is done to serve the needs of online
> >    communities, and people of the chapters make decisions without
> > consulting these
> >    communities, without discussing the annual planning, or strategic
> >    planning with these communities, how can they accomplish what online
> >    communities want? And thinking in that, how they will those who is the
> >    best group for affiliation for the communities?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23 February 2013 15:48, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki em gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I see some fundamental misunderstandings here, which make this
> discussion
> > > so far not so productive and for which I am/was planning a reply...
> > > however, in the end I doubt I'd manage to say it better than Anthere:
> > > http://article.gmane.org/**gmane.org.wikimedia.**foundation/6652<
> > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/6652>
> > >
> > > Nemo
> > >
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