[Wikimedia-l] Russian internet censorship
Fred Bauder
fredbaud at fairpoint.net
Wed Feb 13 16:09:29 UTC 2013
We don't block or censor stuff from the center, however, self-censorship
by the editing community undoubtedly goes on at language Wikipedias both
to conform to the views of the editing community and to avoid obvious
trouble.
Fred
> If you're big enough you might not have a problem in Russia.
>
> But, BTW: How do we deal with such cases? If a country doesn't want
> specific content, are this sites blocked either by Wikimedia or a Big
> Firewall like in China.
>
> Cheers
>
> Marco
>
> On 02/12/2013 04:11 PM, ÐикÑоÑÐ¸Ñ wrote:
>> There was an attempt to curtail access to Wikipedia in School N22 in
>> Orel
>> in October - an assistant prosecutor put some Russian swear words into
>> a
>> search engine on one of the schools' computers and - o dear! -
>> discovered
>> that the Russian Wikipedia has an article about swear words citing
>> them.
>>
>> The provider got a demand to block access to the page. But AFAIK this
>> is as
>> far as this particular story went; Wikipedia is too high profile to
>> start a
>> war with it.
>>
>> There is a Russian saying: "However strict Russia's laws may be, their
>> full
>> power is reduced due to a lack of regular enforcement."
>> Victoria
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Yaroslav M.
>> Blanter<putevod at mccme.ru>wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:43:25 -0600, Samuel Klein wrote:
>>>
>>>> Russia seems to be experimenting with Internet blacklist and
>>>> whitelist
>>>> programs. Is ru:wp likely to be affected by this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://globalvoicesonline.org/**2013/02/03/russian-internet-**
>>>> censorship-imitates-satire/<http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/02/03/russian-internet-censorship-imitates-satire/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.accessnow.org/**blog/2013/02/08/russia-**
>>>> blacklists-site-hosting-blogs-**of-prominent-journalists<https://www.accessnow.org/blog/2013/02/08/russia-blacklists-site-hosting-blogs-of-prominent-journalists>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SJ
>>>>
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>>>
>>> To my understanding, this is unpredictable. The laws in the form they
>>> passed the parliament make, in principle, some content in Wikipedia
>>> and on
>>> Commons illegal. On the other hand, the laws are not reasonable, and
>>> will
>>> be implemented occasionally. Whether Wikipedia is going to be affected
>>> is
>>> probably determined by whether some zealous investigator will decide
>>> to
>>> pursue the case. So far, they first warned websites and then
>>> blacklisted
>>> them if no reaction was forthcoming, but this practice can change
>>> anytime.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Yaroslav
>>>
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