[Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

[Jens Best]

I would suggest to keep distance to this wannabe-NGO which more or less
only exists to serve the interests of commercial players which mostly do *
not* stand for a free and open web.

internet.org is nothing what will serve the ideas and ideals of an internet
as it is represented also by Wikimedia. Don't believe the hype.

Best regards

Jens Best


2013/8/23 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>

> Hoi,
>
> All we need to do is what we already do: make our content available for
> free. When we are really in their face that we bring neutral information to
> everyone, everywhere how and why will they deny us?
>
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
>
> On 23 August 2013 10:59, Kul Wadhwa <kwadhwa at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Emmanuel,
> >
> > I have my concerns as well so we're watching how things unfold for now.
> > Perhaps to add to Teemu's question (If I could be so bold) how would
> > internet.org need to evolve to make it worth our time and effort to be
> > involved?
> >
> > --Kul
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Emmanuel Engelhart <kelson at kiwix.org
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I'm maybe too pessimistic, but I would be really surprised if this
> > > project, at any time, really helps to provide an access (neutral) to
> the
> > > Internet.
> > >
> > > More probable: They will try to give a free/cheap access to a set of
> > > their online services and so one do the same like AOL or MSN have tried
> > > to do 15 years ago.
> > >
> > > ... or like we do with Wikipedia zero... but, to the contrary to this
> > > alliance, Wikimedia has never claimed that they wanted to give access
> to
> > > the Internet.
> > >
> > > So, IMO, this whole story about internet.org stinks.
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oFXCXQpJXI
> > >
> > > Emmanuel
> > >
> > > Le 23/08/2013 10:25, Leinonen Teemu a écrit :
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Have you noticed the new internet.org initiative by Facebook,
> Samsung,
> > > Nokia, Qualcomm, Ericsson and MediaTek?
> > > >
> > > > "Internet.org is a global partnership between technology leaders,
> > > nonprofits, local communities and experts who are working together to
> > bring
> > > the internet to the two thirds of the world’s population that doesn’t
> > have
> > > it".[1, 2]
> > > >
> > > > Would it make sense for the WMF's Wikipedia Zero program to
> collaborate
> > > with this?
> > > >
> > > > Any comments?
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > >       - Teemu
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://www.internet.org
> > > > [2]
> > >
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/21/technology/facebook-leads-an-effort-to-lower-barriers-to-internet-access.html
> > >
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