[Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

Lodewijk lodewijk at effeietsanders.org
Fri Aug 16 17:48:07 UTC 2013


To also add a thought (I think it is a great idea) - I suspect the chapters
that have most to gain here are the chapter in early development phase,
often outside the countries with a US/UK-like charity culture. So we should
make sure that the trainer and material fit to that audience - that we're
not teaching them bureaucratic tools that are very useful in the US, or
even the Netherlands or France, but might be less... welcomed in South
Africa or Bangladesh.

Lodewijk


2013/8/14 Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj at alk.edu.pl>

> hi,
>
> I believe that more than external training (useful, but possibly to a
> limited extent due to our movement's uniqueness, related to the ways we
> discuss things, the ways we finance our projects, etc.) we really very much
> need internal training/coaching. Larger chapters have best practices to
> share with the smaller ones. FDC, affcom, etc. can share their views and
> perspectives. Internal experts can prepare short workshops on chosen
> topics... All this should be cheaper, more relevant, and more meaningful
> than an external training. As a bonus, it would also organically stimulate
> cross-chapter cooperation, mentoring, etc., which could also lead to better
> projects.
>
> best,
>
> dj
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Anthony Cole <ahcoleecu at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I've left some notes on the meta talk
> > page<
> >
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Boards_training_workshop_proposal#Boardsource
> > >about
> > a US nonprofit called Boardsource that specialises in educating
> > nonprofit boards on just the issues you raise, Chris. Though it is US
> > centred, most of the knowledge and advice has universal applicability.
> >
> > You point out an important gap in our governance - the education of our
> > boards in best practice. But I'm not (yet) convinced by anything on the
> > meta project page or any of the above comments that an in-person training
> > is the only or even best solution to that.
> >
> > Another option (if you want assessment and certification to be a part of
> > the process) would be to commission Boardsource or a similar specialist
> > organisation to create an online module tailored to this project's needs.
> > That would have the advantage of not requiring participants to take
> several
> > days out of their lives for the course, open the course up to many more
> > participants, including those who can't take that time off from work and,
> > if a good package is negotiated, should be vastly cheaper per head than
> an
> > in-person course.
> >
> > If independent assessment and certification is dispensed with, this gap
> in
> > knowledge *may* be able to be filled simply by judicious private reading.
> > Boardsource (and I assume other specialist organisations) produce a range
> > of books aimed directly at the very questions you cover in your
> description
> > of the problem.
> >
> > Anthony Cole <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole>
> > Memberships secretary
> > Wiki Project Med Foundation<
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Project_Med>
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Markus Glaser
> > <markus.glaser at wikimedia.de>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Am 14.08.2013 14:44, schrieb Tanweer Morshed:
> > >
> > >  Seems good initiative! I'd like to know, who will be training the
> people
> > >> from chapters?? It'll be more efficient if someone who specializes in
> > >> management of non-profit organization can do this job.
> > >>
> > > We were thinking about having more than one trainer and a set of
> > > subsequent sessions focussing on different topics. Definitely, I think
> > > there should be some external expert among them. But I'd also hope for
> > > someone with a deep insight in the movement to be present at the
> > workshop.
> > > This person, naturally, should be someone internal.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Markus
> > >
> > > --
> > > Markus Glaser
> > > WCA Council Member (WMDE), Chair
> > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
> > >
> > >
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