[Wikimedia-l] Why not everyone have the right to vote in the Board & FDC elections?

[Ting Chen]

And to come back to the topic.

At least in the theory, if someone is blocked in a project, than he has 
a serious problem with that community. And the reason that his block is 
not lifted should be a serious one. And if someone has a serious problem 
with more than one community, than it is questionable if he should be 
eligible to take part in the decision of such an office. So from the 
theory I think the rule is ok.

If in the praxis someone is blocked by a project arbitrarily and he is 
not able to appeal by that community, than that community and that 
project has a real problem. And we should look into detail what is going 
wrong in that project and in that community. But this is not an issue of 
the election committee.

Greetings
Ting

Am 4/30/2013 11:24 AM, schrieb Itzik Edri:
> Ting, Risker,
>
> 1. To share thoughts and feedback about the elections, you don't must to be
> volunteer  in the committee.
>
> 2. I indeed thought about it only when I saw the centralnotice and read the
> voting requirement, I may needed to raise it before. But it's still doesn't
> mean we need to ignore from this issue
>
> Itzik
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Ting Chen <wing.philopp at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello dear all,
>>
>> I would also like to ask everyone who has made their thoughts on the
>> election to take part on the election committee themselves the next time.
>>
>> Unfortunately when I made the call for volunteer earlier this year not
>> very many people responded.
>>
>> Greetings
>> Ting
>>
>> Am 4/30/2013 12:57 AM, schrieb Risker:
>>
>>   On 29 April 2013 18:48, Asaf Bartov <abartov at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>   On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Itzik Edri <itzik at infra.co.il> wrote:
>>>>   I agree. We should limit it to only community members, or to give equal
>>>>> right to everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Asaf, you right, but we are talking also about the FDC elections. a
>>>>> processes where we are not granting chapters and others organizations
>>>>> the
>>>>> right to vote but granting to the WMF. Giving only WMF staff, and not
>>>>> chapters staff the right to vote in community process, it's like saying
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> first are part of the community, but the second are not. I don't even
>>>>>
>>>> want
>>>>
>>>>> to refer to the sensitive issue of the staff voting for their "bosses"..
>>>>>
>>>>>   That's a very good point, and I think the chapter board members and
>>>> staff
>>>> definitely _should_ be given a voice _at least_ in the FDC elections.  I
>>>> leave it to the Elections Committee to propose solutions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   The Elections Committee posted its plan weeks before the election
>>> started,
>>> with hardly any commentary at all; it is only now, after candidates may
>>> start entering the race, that people are complaining that we've failed to
>>> give the "right" people a vote (or alternately, that we've given too many
>>> people a vote).  There is almost no variation between the voter
>>> eligibility
>>> this year and in the previous election; the only relevant changes are
>>> dates
>>> for eligibility and the developer commit process (which was changed
>>> because
>>> the Engineering Department changed the way that commits were done).
>>>
>>> I suggest that those who would like to see changes at the next election
>>> post on the election post mortem page[1] now, so that these ideas aren't
>>> lost to time.
>>>
>>> Risker (Election Committee Member)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_**
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