[Wikimedia-l] (semi-OT) Open access "catastrophic" for Elsevier

[Samuel Klein]

It's funny, most organizations point to our community as am example of how
to manage such things with volunteers.

Another example: law reviews offer an excellent and widely reproduced model
where the most esteemed publications are run by students.
On Sep 24, 2012 6:33 PM, "George Herbert" <george.herbert at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Richard Farmbrough
> <richard at farmbrough.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 24/09/2012 03:49, Risker wrote:
> >>
> >> the costs of peer review
> >
> > I have academics complaining to me that they don't get paid for peer
> review,
> > so I'm not sure what these costs are.
>
> Someone has to edit the magazine, pre-accept papers, and handle the
> peer reviews.
>
> Peer review logistics is non-trivial - identifying reviewers, ensuring
> the reviewers review, on time, and making sure they did their work and
> sorting it out if the answer is neither unambiguously yes or no, etc.
>
> I just went through this process on a system administration paper for
> the LISA conference this year; their peer reviews were significantly
> lower impact (few paragraphs per reviewer) and done with anonymity and
> visibility to the author via a web tool.  They still have a couple of
> people at HQ handling the logistics of the system and related
> paperwork, plus the conference chair, plus the paper's individual
> Shepherd (introduced recently).  I think they only pay their HQ staff,
> but still non-trivial effort.  Hundreds of dollars a paper, at least,
> and much less than other more scientific papers would take (I think).
>
> They're not charging authors or authors' companies/universities, and
> the papers are open-access.  They appear to handle it as conference
> overhead, and charge for the conferences.
>
> Probably can't do that for most journals, and ads with a conflict of
> interest are taken badly...
>
>
> --
> -george william herbert
> george.herbert at gmail.com
>
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