[Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

Craig Franklin craig at halo-17.net
Mon Sep 10 12:35:41 UTC 2012


Great, THANKYOU for finally moving on this.

Cheers,
Craig Franklin

Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:24:39 -0700
> From: Tilman Bayer <tbayer at wikimedia.org>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and
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> Hi Delphine,
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Delphine M?nard <notafishz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Tilman Bayer <tbayer at wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> ...
> >>
> >> Still, I was aware that there had been some objections to that
> >> question by chapter representatives (which I don't assume have to do
> >> with the fact that respondents rated chapters' performance lower than
> >> that of other entities in the two previous surveys), and looked into
> >> these concerns while the present questionnaire was prepared; I also
> >> reached out to one of the critics in person at Wikimania. But I still
> >> haven't seen a compelling argument why the way the question is asked
> >> should be biased against chapters. The argument that the opinion of
> >> Wikimedians who live in countries without chapter should not count
> >> seems weak to me, e.g. because the projects that the work of chapters
> >> aims to support are international, and because the question asked
> >> about chapters in general, not one particular chapter.
> >
> > That is not the argument I was trying to make (ie. voices of
> > Wikimedians in a country without chapter don't count). Rather, there
> > is a long list of things the Foundation does, where people are asked
> > whether they knew about it, or not. And after that, right when people
> > have been made aware of everything the Foundation does, they are asked
> > to rate the work of the Foundation. The same question about the
> > chapters comes after absolutely nothing has been said about chapter
> > work, which, I believe, does introduce a bias. In short, people are
> > being asked to rate something they *at this point in the survey* have
> > an idea about (for the WMF) although they might have had no idea about
> > it before starting the survey.
> > All I'm asking is that we review the context in which this question is
> > being asked so results make more sense.
> OK, after some other people also remarked that preceding this question
> by other questions which conveyed quite some information about the
> Foundation's activities but not about the chapters' activities. we
> have now rearranged the questions so that this is no longer the case.
>
> This is a bit of a compromise regarding the structuring of the
> questionnaire into sections, but fortunately it could be done without
> invalidating existing translations or changing the variables of the
> resulting dataset.
>
> Also, the launch of the survey had been postponed into this month for
> various reasons, including allowing more time to respond to feedback
> like this.
> --
> Tilman Bayer
> Senior Operations Analyst (Movement Communications)
> Wikimedia Foundation
> IRC (Freenode): HaeB
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