[Wikimedia-l] Democratizing the Wikimedia Foundation

[Thomas Dalton]

Transparency is necessary for democracy, but it is only one part of it. I
think Lodewijk wants to discuss ways of involving the community in the
Foundation's governance, not just ways to keep it informed.
On Nov 3, 2012 12:48 PM, "Patricio Lorente" <patricio.lorente at gmail.com>
wrote:

> 2012/11/3 Ilario Valdelli <valdelli at gmail.com>:
> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Patricio Lorente <
> patricio.lorente at gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> > think along and bring the proposals to the board when the time is
> there
> >> > (Alice, Kat, Patricio, SJ, and Ting: I'm looking at you) but of course
> >> I'm
> >> > counting on it that also other board members will support the thought
> >> > behind this. Any input on how to make this process more constructive
> >> would
> >> > be appreciated. I also hope that the legal team will be watching the
> page
> >> > and advise when something is legally impossible and how it could be
> made
> >> > possible.
> >>
> >> > I hope that our community selected board members will take this up as
> >> well,
> >> Hi Lodewijk! I really appreciate this initiative -although I think the
> >> subject does not make too much sense: it would be better "Improving
> >> governance", perhaps-. Anyway, it will be an important input for us.
> >>
> >>                                                         Patricio
> >>
> >
> > Or may be... "improving transparency"?
> >
> > Governance is not transparency, governance is "controlling".
>
> Hi Ilario!
>
> "Improving transparency" is far better that "Democratizing WMF",
> though governance is not about "controlling": is about decision making
> procceses, guidance, communications... in fact, is also about
> transparency :)
>
> Anyway, despite the title we choose, I really think that this
> discussion is necessary, and that we need to improve (or even to set
> up) some basic rules and procedures of interaction and decision
> making.
>
>                                                         Patricio
>
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