[Wikimedia-l] speedydeletion.wika.com lauched

Mike Dupont jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
Mon Jun 11 14:15:03 UTC 2012


Well, showing up on wikia is one thing, that should be easy, to fix, and
even after the fact we can update the wikia and remove articles, there are
not so many of them.

we need a list of categories that can be archived or not. John you are
saying WP:BLP1E should be excluded? is there a specific tag or text to look
for?
What about a simple tag or category like "bin it!".

thanks,
mike

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:00 AM, John Vandenberg <jayvdb at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think we need to ensure that BLP deletions are tagged appropriately.
>
> and this wikia needs to err on the side of caution in order to avoid
> causing subjects further grief in their pursuit to remove problematic
> content from Wikipedia.  i.e. if someone jumps through all the hoops
> to *help* us remove problematic content from Wikipedia, they are not
> going to be happy to learn that the same content has appeared on Wikia
> - its confusing, and they will blame Wikipedia, and IMO they are right
> to do so as this Wikia is run by people in the Wikimedia community,
> and due to the overlap in the WMF board and Wikia board, now and
> historically.
>
> e.g. this AFD mentioned "WP:BLP1E" and was categorised into "AfD
> debates (Biographical)"
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alexander_Kinyua
> http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Alexander_Kinyua
>
> Until we are confident that BLP problems are not being imported into
> the wikia, the content shouldnt be indexed.  I assume  __NOINDEX__
> works on Wikia?
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Although I can understand the appeal of this concept, I am concerned
> > that a deleted-articles wiki or site will perpetuate the publicity
> > given to pages that are properly deleted from Wikipedia because they
> > contain offensive personal attacks, harassment, cyberbullying,
> > defamation, and BLP violations. These are not always flagged in the
> > deletion grounds, especially in speedy situations (e.g. if a harassing
> > or defamatory article does not assert the subject's notability, it
> > will often be deleted on that ground without its being tagged as an
> > attack page, etc.). This issue strikes me as extremely serious. How do
> > you plan to address it?
> >
> > Newyorkbrad
> >
> > On 6/10/12, Mike  Dupont <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I have launched speedydeletion.wika.com , it is updated every 30
> minutes
> >> with the proposed deletions and speedy deletion articles (not notable
> and
> >> hoaxes, not others).
> >> it is running on the en.wikipedia.org. the sources for the script are
> all
> >> on git hub and are a merger of pywikipediabot and the wikiteam
> codebases.
> >> hope you enjoy it,
> >> thanks,
> >> mike
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