[Wikimedia-l] Update on IPv6

John phoenixoverride at gmail.com
Sat Jun 2 00:35:13 UTC 2012


Multiple sign posts January 17 this year. There was also a May 2011
foundation announcement along with countless other notes

On Friday, June 1, 2012, Risker wrote:

> I've got about 18 months worth of Wikitech-L in my archives, and there are
> two threads that talk about IPv6; one from March, that didn't provide a lot
> of information, and this one. There may be others, but they're not popping
> up on my search.
>
> Forgive me for failing to read this week's signpost from cover to cover
> yet; it refers to the previous coverage from June 2011, and quotes Erik
> Moeller from some unknown and unspecified source.  I don't know where he
> told "the community" that. Do you?
>
> Risker
>
> On 1 June 2012 20:10, John <phoenixoverride at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Wow Risker, you obviously don't read any mailing lists/ blogs or sign
> > posts. I just did a quick search of my email records for wiki tech and
> ipv6
> > the first result that I see is from July 2007. Almost 5 years ago, I also
> > remember a big push last year about this same time for ipv6.
> >
> > On Friday, June 1, 2012, Risker wrote:
> >
> > > Indeed, a long time. Discussed on Mediawiki and bugzilla; it's not even
> > > discussed on Wikitech-L.  Neither of which 99.99999% of users,
> including
> > > many volunteer developers, have time to follow.  This is not just a
> > > technical change, it's a cultural one.
> > >
> > > I've long stood up for the Engineering Department when it is making
> > changes
> > > that have only minor effects on the public face of the project; I know
> > that
> > > sometimes users can be hyperactive about minor points.  But this isn't
> a
> > > minor point.  I'd compare it to Vector - something that there was
> > longterm,
> > > active communication about throughout its development cycle, with lots
> of
> > > outreach to volunteer developers and to the community, and
> opportunities
> > to
> > > test things out.
> > >
> > > I can't stand up for them this time, though. It's not even discussed
> well
> > > on Mediawiki, and is mostly in passing on the Roadmap.[1]  And the few
> > > community-based questions that have come up, specifically on Erik's
> meta
> > > userpage, have not been given the courtesy of a reply.
> > >
> > > Risker
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap
> > >
> > > On 1 June 2012 19:35, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2 June 2012 00:08, Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Fully enabling IPv6 has been coming a *long* time - over a year, with
> > > > months of planning and work before even that - as Erik's first
> message
> > > > in this thread notes, and it was hardly a secret. Your objections may
> > > > be entirely too late - it is vanishingly unlikely that two years'
> > > > effort will suddenly be thrown away. Were you literally unaware until
> > > > now that this was in the works?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - d.
> > > >
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