[Wikimedia-l] photography restrictions at the Olympics

[Thomas Souza-Buckup]

Lodewijk

I agree with you. It makes a lot of sense to start now a negotiation with
the IOC in order to prepare for the next Olympic Games taking place in
Brazil in 2016. It may take a long time for us to see the first results and
thereafter we should start asap a "more thorough long term lobby on this
issue". Who else would like to join this task force?

Thomas
TSB



On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk at effeietsanders.org>wrote:

> Would it make sense to start a more thorough long term lobby on this issue?
> Considering that this will be a returning issue every two years, I guess
> that would be worth the trouble...
>
> Lodewijk
>
> 2012/7/24 Tomasz Ganicz <polimerek at gmail.com>
>
> > 2012/7/24 Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian at gmail.com>:
> > > 2012/7/24 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni at mail.huji.ac.il>:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> The Olympic games are beginning soon. Apparently, ticket holders
> > >> cannot use photo equipment longer than 30cm and cannot use the photos
> > >> and videos for commercial purposes without accreditation.
> > >>
> > >> Practically everything that happens at the Olympics is notable and
> > >> should be on Wikipedia, Commons, etc. Does anybody know whether there
> > >> are professional accredited photographers who are Wikimedia-friendly
> > >> and plan to upload their photos? If there aren't any, does anybody
> > >> know whether a Wikipedian can obtain such accreditation?
> > >>
> > >> This doesn't concern me directly, but there are many, many people who
> > >> write Wikipedia articles about sports in all languages and it may be
> > >> interesting to them. Also, it may be a frequent issue in sports and
> > >> I'm just not aware of it because I rarely follow sports.
> > >>
> > >> Sources for the restrictions:
> > >> * http://www.tickets.london2012.com/purchaseterms.html
> > >> * PDF: http://j.mp/london2012prohibited
> > >
> > > I think this another layer of problems besides copyright, with
> > > CC-BY-SA the author grants permission to reuse the photo also for
> > > commercial purposes without requesting permission to the author. But
> > > there are many other layers of rights which could interfere with the
> > > free (or better the "anarchic") reuse of a photo. For example I think
> > > that using an image of Usain Bolt to promote a book without explicit
> > > permission from the athlete (or his agent) is anyhow unlawful even if
> > > the photo was taken, for example, in the street and freely licensed.
> > > That said I think with can treat photo from the Olympics in a similar
> > > way as we do for photos with "personality rights", we could put a
> > > template saying "Olympics photo warning: to reuse for commercial
> > > purposes this photo you should obtain permission from IOC and/or
> > > individuals depicted in the photo".
> > > The point is that the author of the photo allows for it the widest
> > > possible reuse permitted by CC-BY-SA, thus sharing part of its
> > > copyright with others,  but if one wants to use the photo for
> > > commercial purposes that he should go (himself, not the author)
> > > through the hassle of obtaining permission from the relevant subjects.
> > >
> > > Could it work?
> > >
> >
> > No. CC-BY-SA clearly allows for commercial use of works, and there is
> > also clause that the licence cannot be accompanied by extra
> > restrictions which are not compatible with the licence.  However,
> > CC-BY-SA is only copyrights licence, so all other legal restrictionz
> > are still in power. For example: using someone's face in big-scale
> > commercial or political campaign may be treated as a infringement of
> > personal rights, even if the face is taken from CC-BY-SA picture...
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz
> > http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek
> > http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/
> > http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz
> >
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